Parents Need to Know. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! All based on my head-canon of the G1 Cartoon From left to right, here are the crew members of Ark, minus rest of the Dinobots Optimus Prime-Freightliner Cab-over-engine Class 8 truck Bumblebee- Volkswagon Beetle Between the two, Lockdown is about 21-22 feet. Other Titans, such as the numerous dead Titans on Luna 1 or Chela, seem to be smaller, roughly the size of a single large building. This page was last modified on 3 April 2023, at 16:04. The original G1 Optimus Prime toy also has scale issues. vehicles forms G1 (1984) - Freightliner cabover RID (2001) - Hino Brandlier fire engine Armada (2002) - Semi-truck Cybertron (2005) - Futuristic fire truck/aircraft Tranformers - DOTM (2007 -11) - 1997 Peterbilt 379 semi-truck Alpha Trion was a mentor to Orion Pax and believed in Orion to become . Thus, Bumblebee comes up to Wheeljack's waist, which is show-accurate, but results in Bumblebee turning into a very small Volkswagen Beetle; were vehicle mode scale used, Bumblebee would actually be slightly larger. Autobot scale chart for The Transformers: The Movie Chart of planets seen in The Movie relative to Earth Season 3 scale for Rodimus, Predaking, Trypticon and Metroplex Unicron compared to Jupiter, Metroplex next to the Akashi Kaikyo Bridge from Hobby Japan Seasons 1 & 2 scales published in The Ark The Headmasters cartoon Likewise, the Legends Class version of Revenge of the Fallen Arcee, a motorcycle, is more or less in scale with Deluxe-sized Autobots with car alternate modes. The Legends Class version of Devastator only adds another dump truck for the torso, which doesn't really improve things since all the individual components are still more or less the same size. Since for the majority of his presence on the show he is a loyal servant of Megatron, this was likely intentionally fudged so that he could have scenes inside the Nemesis, which is also where one of his biggest and most plot-important fight scenes takes place. Furthermore, the Dreamwave miniseries Micromasters suggested that the Micromasters were scaled down to interact more easily with "smaller beings". Did Devastator shrink? Sometimes artists draw a character at a different size intentionally. A vaguely similar explanation appeared in Dreamwave's More than Meets the Eye encyclopedia. He's drawn large because he's a leader character. Buzzsaw-Cassette tape. When entering the Ark, the Beast Warriors are quite small compared to the dormant Generation 1 characters, especially Optimus Primebut just how much bigger varies quite a bit from scene to scene and episode to episode. Most fans agree that one must either ignore it or accept it, lest they be tempted to explain these problems and in the process fanwank themselves into oblivion. As Optimus retrieves theAllSpark, Autobots, Decepticons, and Predacons unite under Bumblebee and Predaking to face the Chaos Bringer in defense of their home. Beast Wars likewise had an official scale guide, which appeared as a bonus on the DVD set of Season 2. The animated segments featured in the television commercials for the toys generally play fast and loose with scale: One of them features Micromasters small enough for Action Master Optimus Prime to hold several of them (in alternate mode) in the palm of his hand (see the image to the left), which would mean the toys are supposed to be roughly life-sized, while others feature an entire Micromaster city that's small enough for Powermaster Optimus Prime to hold it in the palm of his hand, which would make the toys massively oversized! Roll out with all-new adventures starring Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Arcee, and the rest of the heroic Autobots as they battle the evil Decepticons! Multiple-scale characters usually aren't meant to cross-interact. Megatron, however, is a pitifully tiny specimen of a T. rex. Between the Great War and the Beast Era, the majority of the Cybertronian race considerably downgraded in size at the Great Upgrade. The robot mode scaling is generally very consistent to the chosen source, but there are still a few oddities, particularly when dealing with older figures being reissued or redecoed after MP-10. Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion, Portfolio: Jennifer Hoffman - Transformers Prime Rigging, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. There is also a great deal of praise given to the serious, more mature storytelling ofPrimethat had not been attempted in Transformers media sinceBeast Machines. Super-God Masterforce featured Pretenders who did not have outer shells but rather an ill-defined holistic transformation which explicitly involved size changing. Transformers Legends even acknowledges this by having Broadside becoming a gigantic Headmaster large enough to fight level with Grand Scourge, and piloting a larger Transtector who seems to be on a similar scale to most versions of Metroplex. The Masterpiece line, from roughly MP-10 onward, has gone in the opposite direction, making heavy use of the in-fiction scale of the G1 cartoon - but only in robot modes. Instead, they're about the same size. Before the Great War, Optimus Prime was originally known as Orion Pax; a young data clerk who worked in Iacon, under the wing of Alpha Trion. Super mode Powermaster Optimus Prime was originally about Fortress Maximus-sized, until he too shrunk to the size of his inner robotwhich was never seen again. There's also no known reason for e.g. In the ensuing confrontation, Silas is fatally injured, forcing MECH to graft him into Breakdown. This is a visual cheat so the glasses are visible to the audience, and other visual cheats to make the robots seem shorter or taller were used in the movies. B.O.T. Despite transforming into a Lamborghini Aventador (a smallish vehicle at less than four feet in height and fifteen feet in length), Lockdown unfolds into a massive robot mode that stands at least 24 feet tall. Triple Changers create a whole new set of problems. Deluxe Class, at US$10. The depiction of Unicron's scale in Armada was (debatably) a slight improvement, in that physical interaction with normal beings was not attempted. The movie-franchise toys, meanwhile, are only intermittently consistent (particularly since some of the secondary ones are redecos of toys from previous lines), with the largest contrast among the "primary" toys being between Deluxe Class Arcee, a motorcycle, and Voyager Class Decepticons with helicopters as their alternate modes, such as Blackout and Incinerator. Hasbro could have made Jazz smaller, but since the main limit for a size class is the weight of a toy, not its size (as long as it fits into the standardized packaging, that is), they decided that scale problems are more acceptable than selling a tiny Deluxe Class toy when there's still room in the budget for more plastic. If one takes James Robert's measurements into account (but then, the Lost Light has its own fair share of scaling problems), this would make him and some of the other Titans approximately 15 miles high in robot mode taller than Manhattan Island is long! It was not shown until "Masters and Students". Megatron is a Tyrannosaurus rex but is shown in "The Agenda (Part III)", as being much smaller than Optimus Prime. Combiner characters are often depicted as far larger than the sum of their parts. The new peace doesn't last, as Cybertron's revival reawakens the slumbering Unicron, who takes Megatron's lifeless body as his own and seeks to destroy Primus. The 2018 Studio Series line was the first to do so: Deluxe Bumblebee is shorter than Deluxe Ratchet, but taller than Deluxe Jazz, with Deluxe Lockdown being taller than all three. Imagine him trying to devour a star the size of Betelgeuse! Transformers, the toyline based on the 2007 live-action movie, retains many size classes from before: Legends Class, at US$4. For this to work, either Blast Off has to shrink, or Swindle needs to grow. A screenshot of both of them together could be available from Predatory. Transformers Movie 1 15th Anniversary Multi-pack, at US$141.99 War for Cybertron Trilogy War for Cybertron: Siege . 2y. The Autobots regroup followingUltra Magnus's arrival, whileSmokescreenrestores Optimus with theForge of Solus Prime. However, the term is not used, as one might assume, to refer to the size ratio between different characters and their surroundings, but to refer to size classes. On occasion, characters are shown explicitly changing size when forming a Combiner. A few pages later, Laserbeak picks up Soundwave out of the human's hands, being barely able to hold the tape deck in his mouth, making Laserbeak about the size of a large dog (not counting the wings). Now that big bad Megatron has returned to Earth, Team Prime prepares for an epic struggle to save the planet. From left to right, Here is the unofficial chart the Generation 1 Decepticons. Welcome to Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki. For another example, the Marvel comics portrayed the Pretenders as literal interpretations of their toys: 60-foot humans with full-scale Transformers inside. Sometimes the cartoon would show ordinarily-scaled characters such as Cyclonus, Thrust or Huffer carrying another Transformer in their cockpit, implying either a tiny passenger or a huge vehicle. For all of these reasons, it is usually considered one of the best Transformers cartoons. The Autobots and Decepticons' struggle becomes a competition for Cybertronian artifacts strewn across the planet, which turn out to have been placed there byAlpha Trion, who foresaw the Autobots coming to Earth. The early Generation 1 toy line, especially the pre-movie releases, were rebranded and redecoed toys from several different Japanese toy lines. Some can be attributed to animation errors, such as layering problems,123 but some "errors" were deliberate choices, for a variety of reasons. This Scale is not 100% considered accurate, but I tried my best, base on m Scale in G1 Transformers is inconsistent to put it mildly. One possible reason for this is that one of them would be considerably smaller than the other one in real life if they were perfectly in scale. It took a while to complete this so I hope you guys are vocal about what you think about the designs! I found this scale chart of the various heights of Megatron on Deviantart; credits to KaijuATTACK877. For example, Movie Jazz's Pontiac Solstice alternate mode is a tiny car, and any size class that includes both him and Bumblebee (a Chevrolet Camaro) will result in scale problems between the toys.
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