. You putting men in charge basically driving women and people of color out. But it was television that showed me there it was another way, and it was a show called MASH. Not rated. Sandra Oh speaks movingly about the importance of seeing actresses who looked like her for the first time in The Joy Luck Club. And Tiffany Haddishtotally unsurprisinglygets the biggest laughs of all when she recalls the thrill of seeing Diahann Carroll stride into a room and start a catfight with Joan Collins on Dynasty., Behind the scenes, This Changes Everything offers several nuggets that are both illuminating and infuriating. They're both featured in the new documentary "This Changes Everything," about the campaign for more representation of women in front of and behind the camera in movies and TV. GIESE: I first went to the EEOC in 2013. This Changes Everything (2019) Watch Now . This Changes Everything. It's a lonely sport because you're out there for hours every day shooting by yourself. MARTIN: Did you think it was as bad as it is? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is nothing funny here. GROSS: Geena, I want to ask you about one of the recurring roles that you have now, and that's on this series "GLOW" - the Netflix series "GLOW," which is about women wrestlers in the 1980s. Michael Mann tells Christiane Amanpour why we need to rethink what we eat and how we produce it. I felt very unhappy with having that sort of imposed on me by other people. Theyll just get somebody else. This Changes Everything On Netflix Now! 0000006562 00000 n GROSS: Geena Davis is featured in and is an executive producer of the new documentary "This Changes Everything," about the campaign for better representation of women in front of and behind the camera in movies and TV. Chinese Simple There are going to be so many more movies with women starring and everything. GROSS: So what did you learn being on set? This was my plan (laughter). GIESE: Well, that was the thing. Advertisement. GROSS: If you're just joining us, my guests are both featured in the new documentary "This Changes Everything" about discrimination against women in Hollywood. MARTIN: about women in Hollywood and the underrepresentation of women in Hollywood? . So what impact do you think it had both on audiences but also on Hollywood? Catalan Documentary . The musical score, composed by Leigh Roberts and Allison Piccioni, is way too prominent in the mix and by a massive distance much too reminiscent of old-school TV documentaries, underscoring every emotion with obvious musical cues. . Filmed over 211 shoot days in nine countries and five continents over four years, This Changes Everything is an epic attempt to re-imagine the vast challenge of climate change. Russian She is an executive producer of and is featured in the new documentary "This Changes Everything," about how women in Hollywood are pushing for more representation in front of and behind the camera. Certainly, this facet is germane to telling the full story, but its dry and not as visually or emotionally arresting as the rest of the film. In partnership with The Guardian, we are very proud to unveil this first ever sneak peek at the work-in-progress companion documentary film to This Changes Everything, directed by Avi Lewis. And so I learned at 36 that I actually was coordinated. So I learned about being a feminist through the activism of a man. hb```b``1f`e``c`@ 6v@NDl?L0`aeeVeE! Well, we call the film This Changes Everything, because its about kind of why that doesnt happen. And that's when you really are tested with your mental abilities because once you have a really good shot, your job is to recreate it exactly and - every time. Music: Leigh Roberts, Allison Piccioni He was the photographer for "Soul Train" and took photos for Jet, Ebony and the black-owned LA newspaper Soul. MARTIN: And they just cant believe that it is what it is. Naomi Kleins This Changes Everything is a ground-breaking work on how climate change changes everything. MARTIN: And youre saying that entertainment really does matter. She founded an institute, the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media. GROSS: How did you decide to create your institute? Female. MARTIN: Well, you do interview one executive, the head of FX, John Landgraf. Executive Producers: Geena Davis, Steve Edwards, Regina Scully, Simone Pero, Madeline Di Nonno, Jennie Peters, Patty Casby, Ku-Ling Yurman My understanding is they don't make their investigation public. DONAHUE: Sure. And I could see that I was not going to make any headway with them. So I learned through him about the equal rights amendment, about Gloria Steinem and Marlo Thomas and that girl and I became a fan of Mary Tyler Moore. Production companies: CreativeChaos vmg, New Plot Films, US Release 2019. Geena Davis talks about what inspired "This Changes Everything," a documentary about women in film.Subscribe: https://bit.ly/2HFUeAKWebsite: https://kellyand. DAVIS: Absolutely, which is fantastic. I'm Terry Gross. Producers: Ilan Arboleda, Kerianne Flynn, Tom Donahue And I was counting on my hands as I held her in my lap, and it was horrifying, and I was absolutely stunned. DAVIS: I think I noticed it because Ive been in like A League of Their Own and I became very aware of how few inspirational female characters there are in regular adult fare. It is also possible to buy "This Changes Everything" on Apple TV, Amazon Video, Vudu as download or rent it on Apple TV . Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Naomi Kleins fourth book, This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs the Climate was published in September 2014 and was an instant New York Times and international bestseller. DONAHUE: But also, Reese Witherspoon says in the film that sometimes she would go on set and it would be 115 men and she would be the only woman. GROSS: Let down your hair, as you put it. All Rights Reserved. It will be on air. Slovene We can reflect the future now and it will make it happen. And then I saw it everywhere. Most importantly, the film seeks pathways and solutions from within and outside the industry, and around the world. - three years and seven months going. GROSS: It's like, he's short; you're really tall. And so I thought, this is an enormous problem if we are training kids from the beginning that girls are second-class citizens. DAVIS: It did well. This Changes Everything is, improbably, Kleins most optimistic book. But as time went on and I became more empowered, I started really noticing. So its kind of working. And that action alone sent the numbers skyrocketing from 0.5% to 16% in just 10 years from 1985 to 1995. Copyright 2019 NPR. By what name was This Changes Everything (2015) officially released in India in English? GEENA DAVIS, EXECUTIVE PRODUCER, THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING: Thank you. GROSS: So you and your friend, played by Susan Sarandon - they go on a trip together, have a lot of drinks in a bar, guy comes up to you, asked to dance with you. Hilary Weston Writers Trust Prize for Nonfiction. Drawing on an impressive volume of research, Ms. Klein savages the idea that we will be saved by new technologies or by an incremental shift away from fossil fuels: Both approaches, she argues, are forms of denial . GROSS: So Geena Davis, I have a few questions for you about your career. Sometimes it feels like a disproportionate amount of attention is applied to legal cases and internecine DGA politics, leaving only a scant amount of time for a cursory history of women filmmakers from the silent era onwards. Yet we can seize this existential crisis to transform our failed economic system into something radically better. The film is at its best when it gives the smart, talented, diverse collection of women the opportunity to tell their stories, relive their battles and share their feelings. In this part of the interview, I'm going to talk more with Davis about her own movie career. And womens films do make more money and have, I think, over the last three years. And why does that matter? We should be showing kids that boys and girls share the same bicycle. Featured in the movie is "film director Maria Giese, who was a key instigator of the ACLU and federal investigations, has been a feminist activist in . Actress Geena Davis rallies Meryl Streep, Shonda Rhimes, Reese Witherspoon and others in this . MARTIN: To that point, heres a scene from the film which speaks with that with Kimberly Pierce, the director, and Chloe Grace Moretz. . makes a muscular case for global warming as the defining, cross-sectional issue of our era., [A]robust new polemic . Japanese Theres a whole side trip to a cinema in Stockholm that only shows movies that have passed the Bechdel testi.e., does it feature two female characters talking about something other than a man?which is fun, but feels wedged-in. 0000005016 00000 n And I was - well, I was mostly thrilled that my first job was not playing, you know, a corpse in a morgue on a soap opera or something. . Harvey Weinstein, of course, comes to mind. And so it kind of made sense in that way. Last year, 92 percent of the directors who made the top 250 domestic movies were male. Finnish My guest Geena Davis starred in two movies about female empowerment - "Thelma & Louise" and "A League Of Their Own." This documentary takes a deep look at gender disparity in Hollywood through the eyes of well-known actresses and female filmmakers. And so obviously you only come when you're shooting, but I came every day at the beginning of the day (laughter) and grabbed my chair and put it next to Sydney and sat next to him all day, every day, making the movie. Runtime. 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But we were stunned at the reaction that was instant - cover of Time magazine and all that stuff. Prior to the worldwide publication of This Changes Everything, Naomi filmed a one and a half minute book trailer that highlighted the main themes of the book. I mean you know. Tom, do you want to add to that? An examination of sexism in the Hollywood film industry, the film interviews a variety of actresses and women filmmakers on their experiences in the industry.. As we mark the third anniversary to Superstorm Sandy, individual of the most destructive storms in the nation's history, are we designed by next extreme meteorology event, which researchers say are becoming more frequent from the effects of climate change? Polish He said no, that's the whole point is competing. LANDGRAF: The minute we open our door and we say, come express it here, the work got better. So it was all very shocking and great because what it really - well, first of all, I'll tell you how it affected me. So they looked east to the banks to basically the patriarchal systems in the east and so they created the studio system in the west. She's in Paris. An investigative look and analysis of gender disparity in Hollywood, featuring accounts from well-known actors, executives and artists in the Industry.An investigative look and analysis of gender disparity in Hollywood, featuring accounts from well-known actors, executives and artists in the Industry.An investigative look and analysis of gender disparity in Hollywood, featuring accounts from well-known actors, executives and artists in the Industry. This is a rush transcript. MARTIN: Talk to me about the Geena Davis Institute which you founded years ago. After the release of This Changes Everything book and film, Naomi went on a sold out tour to speak to audiences worldwide. And I went, and they said, wear a bathing suit under your clothes because if you do well at the reading, they'll ask to see you in your bathing suit. Provoking whats surely the docs biggest laugh, Tiffany Haddish relives the thrill of watching Diahann Carroll whaling on Joan Collins in the classic Dynasty catfight, and yet never going to jail for it. And it hasnt changed in all that time. It looks like we don't have any synopsis for this title yet. The EEOC functions in total confidentiality. And that in turn should give us hope, because it means the fight for a just world is the same as the fight for a livable one., This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate is a book of such ambition and consequence that it is almost unreviewable . Suddenly, they could see what they were doing, and weve yet to leave any meeting where somebody doesnt say, you just changed my project. DAVIS: Oh, so - gosh. And so that was really fun. Bulgarian So why does the behind the camera representation matter so much? After a break, I'll talk more with Geena Davis about her movie career, and Bruce Talamon will talk about taking photos of soul, funk and R&B stars of the '70s . This Changes Everything. Better yet, it also explains how folks are now pushing back and using the law, media pressure and other forms of recourse to change the numbers. A military-trained assassin comes out of hiding to protect the daughter she's never met from ruthless criminals gunning for revenge. As defeated as one feels when you dont see a change happening, I really do think that it can and that it will. Here it is. Editor: Jasmin Way There's far fewer movies with a female lead character. Im an optimist. I thought, this is incredibly unfair, and I don't want other people deciding that I have to work less, you know, and taking away opportunities. In 2004, she founded the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media to get the actual data comparing the number and types of male and female roles and to use that data to convince the industry of the need for change. Copy may not be in its final form. And then Susan Sarandon comes out. There are some tonal problems here, particularly around the way the film tends to homogenize very disparate views and opinions into one sweet, easily digestible polemical smoothie. DAVIS: It was very specific, actually. So I knew that we could invoke that law to be able to change things in a very significant way. By the end, it feels like This Changes Everything is just that little bit too much behind the curve of history, despite the boo and hiss-prompting appearances from President Donald Trump and footage of the Womens March. DAVIS: Absolutely, yes. Kleins urgency and outrage is balanced by meticulous documentation and passionate argument. Portuguese DAVIS: Well, no, no. Dutch With - the other thing that I loved about it was that it's measured by points. Geena Davis is an actress who starred in such films as "A League Of Their Own" and "Thelma & Louise." MARTIN: Why do you think that was the click moment for you? And her actions led to an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission investigation into systemic discrimination against women directors in Hollywood. 0000023951 00000 n There are problem areas in terms of style as well as content. Incidentally, both of these docs conspicuously have no interviews with several of the industrys best known and most lauded female directors, such as Kathryn Bigelow and Sofia Coppola, who have expressed the view, at least in Bigelows case, that they much prefer to be seen as simply directors, not as female directors. A new nurse at a hospital begins to suspect her colleague's desire for attention may be tied to a series of patient deaths. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. GEENA DAVIS: Well, it was pretty dramatic. The New York Times Book Review called it The most momentous and contentious environmental book since Silent Spring.. 0000043924 00000 n I was a feminist since I was 10-years-old because I came from a very right-wing family. She starts her own organization, the Geena Davis Institute, on gender in media to keep track of the imbalance. - Things have changed, everything's changed. This Changes Everything: Directed by Tom Donahue. And so it's just a battle with yourself the whole time. DAVIS: They do. DAVIS: Oh, no. You know, I mean, both are kind of unattainable. . JOIN NOW. The title of the doc actually refers to the many false dawns of hope, for example after the surprise success of Thelma & Louise (1991), which observers at the time took to augur impending change. GROSS: Maria Giese, let me move on to you. Since then it has been shown 1000s of times in community screenings around the world. Geena Davis and Tom Donahue on This Changes Everything, Maleeha Lodhi Discusses Tensions Between India and Pakistan, Michael Mann Explains Why We Need to Rethink Food Production, + Major support for Amanpour and Company is provided by the Anderson Family Charitable Fund, Sue and Edgar Wachenheim, III, Candace King Weir, Jim Attwood and Leslie Williams, the Leila and Mickey Straus Family Charitable Trust, Mark J. Blechner, Seton J. Melvin, Bernard and Denise Schwartz, Koo and Patricia Yuen, Barbara Hope Zuckerberg, Jeffrey Katz and Beth Rogers, the Filomen M. DAgostino Foundation, Josh Weston and. Be the first to contribute. Brenda Chapman explains her thinking in conceiving Pixars Brave: I purposely went for a princess so I could throw the princess thing on its head. (But then the movie weirdly fails to follow up with the fact that Chapman was forced to share directing credit with Mark Andrews once Brave came out, rather than serving as the first woman to direct a Pixar feature.) So, like, it seems like a lot of the change is happening from women like that who are creating the change themselves. You know, they just determined to do it, and they're very creative and they make it happen. The documentary This Changes Everything gives audiences a look at how the tropes of "the girlfriend," the "useless chick," and the beauty who needs to "be saved" are still alive and well. MARIA GIESE: My first feature film directing job out of graduate film school was in England, not in the United States. AMANPOUR: Let me just give some of the statistics that you cite in the film. The cinematographer, Stefano Ferrari, also is a man. ', A work of startling force, exhaustive reporting, and telling anecdote . So they send over a Victoria's Secret catalogue (laughter). - because it was a big hit. Running time: 1 hour 36 minutes. Heart and mind go hand in hand in this magisterial response to a present crisis., We lack the collective spaces in which to confront the raw terror of ecocide, is how Klein encapsulates the problem. DAVIS: Well, you know, we found that for every two speaking male characters, there's one female speaking character, and that there's an appalling amount of hypersexualization of female characters, even in G-rated movies, and the female characters are very often narrowly stereotyped, hypersexualized or not really integral to the plot. After we take a short break, we'll hear from photographer Bruce Talamon, whose photos of soul, funk and R&B stars of the '70s and early '80s are collected in a book. MARTIN: You know one of the things that really fascinated me about the film is that you point out it wasnt always this way. Was that because you thought that was the way you could break in? GROSS: A battle with yourself to not battle with yourself. . Well, get her back. MARTIN: But Geena, this has to have happened to you throughout your career? With Reese Witherspoon, Mira Nair, Shonda Rhimes, Tracee Ellis Ross. GROSS: Yes, you're not fazed by seeing Dustin Hoffman walk in because you think he's really a woman. Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media is not a production company or talent agency.The organization does not solicit or accept autograph requests, manuscripts, project ideas, or other similar materials.If any such information is sent to us, we will return the material unread. And she documents the inspiring movements that have already begun this process: communities that are not just refusing to be sites of further fossil fuel extraction but are building the next, regeneration-based economies right now. Available on Tubi TV, Plex. We dont have to wait for things to turn around in real life. And we started to have meetings with them. Finally, inevitably, there will be viewers who may feel understandably perplexed as to why, even though an end credit points out that 75 percent of the crew that worked on this film was female, its still a man getting the directors credit here, and a man (Stefano Ferrari) taking the director of photography credit, especially when there are so many outstanding female cinematographers emerging now. So I gathered all my articles and all the work that I had done, and I had even written the beginnings of a legal brief, and I brought it to the ACLU, where I met Melissa Goodman and Ariela Migdal. He could hardly have timed it . 0000045603 00000 n A work of startling force, exhaustive reporting, and telling anecdote . One of the films main, salient points is that it isnt all that hard to find gifted, visionary women to direct, and that the powers that beagents, studio executives, producers, etc.simply havent bothered to look for far too long. And I'd like to see if I could do that. And then I had to play the best baseball player anyone has ever seen hold a bat. And I started to do research. $2.99 HD . Geena Davis and Maria Giese, welcome to FRESH AIR. What have they each done? The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. But so I think that will change and I think it will impact society, that life will imitate art. In 2012, my archery coach noticed that when both Brave and The Hunger Games came out, suddenly the percentage of girls taking up archery shot up 105 percent, higher than adult men. watch "This Changes Everything" streaming on Netflix, Hoopla, Netflix basic with Ads. She notes how every . And it was fantastic. Geena Davis is also an executive producer of the film. And she doesnt know its her period because she had never been taught that by her mother. GROSS: Well, what was wrong with that plan? Filmed over 211 shoot days in nine countries and five continents over four years, This Changes Everything is an epic attempt to re-imagine the vast challenge of climate change. I'm sure it made a lot of money. Executive producers: Geena Davis, Regina K. Scully, Ku-ling Yurman, Madeline Di Nonno, Steve Edwards, Jennie Peters, Simone Pero, Patty Casby DONAHUE: And then Patricia Arquette got up at the Oscars and demanded equal pay. Why hasnt it changed before now? GROSS: So part of your work was modeling for Victoria's Secret. Tom Donahue's documentary 'This Changes Everything' examines efforts from within Hollywood to redress the gender imbalance and features a large roster of big-name interviewees, from Anita Hill to Zoe Saldana. I did get work, and it was through my model agency that I got my first acting job. Maria Giese is a director who felt shut out for being a woman. Can we play that? makes a muscular case for global warming as the defining, cross-sectional issue of our era. Read Transcript EXPAND. 0000004824 00000 n DAVIS: Well, the bigger part was the (laughter) - that Sydney liked my audition. . 0000049660 00000 n And if you're just joining us, my guest is actor Geena Davis and director Maria Giese. I never got another paying job. See production, box office & company info, Rita Moreno: Just a Girl Who Decided to Go for It, White Hot: The Rise & Fall of Abercrombie & Fitch. What if confronting the climate crisis is the best chance we'll ever get to build a better world? DAVIS: Images are so powerful that it will impact real life. This is FRESH AIR. this changes everything, I'm a little skeptical. You know, some shows are researched and all that and certainly harmless. She ends up shooting him, and then you both go on the lam because you feel like, who's going to believe you? I felt its my duty as a feminist, male or otherwise. GROSS: Geena Davis is featured in and is an executive producer of the new documentary "This Changes Everything," about the campaign for better representation of women . I - my daughter was a toddler, and I decided she was old enough to start watching preschool shows. If she can see it, she can be it. Terms Privacy Policy For Our Members Access, All rights reserved. The numbers have obviously not improved for decades. After a break, I'll talk more with Geena Davis about her movie career, and Bruce Talamon will talk about taking photos of soul, funk and R&B stars of the '70s. She had to fight really hard to get them to put it on the air. The result is the most momentous and contentious environmental book since Silent Spring. Published in 2014, it debuted at #5 on the New York Times list and at #1 in Canada. 0000006173 00000 n Age rating. JENNIFER LAWRENCE: Its our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal . The film presents seven portraits of communities on the front lines, from Montana's Powder River Basin to the Alberta Tar Sands, from the coast of South India to Beijing . DAVIS: Well, I definitely see a big shift happening in Hollywood in the past couple of years since #MeToo and Time's Up. In This Changes Everything, Naomi Klein explores the issue of climate change from a political perspective and considers why we have failed as yet to respond to the global danger it poses. She's got a handgun, pulls it on him, asks him to apologize. And I got the part. - Thelma & Louise you went, that's it, the whole industry's gonna change. In October, at a special ceremony, she'll receive an honorary Oscar, the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award. 0000002423 00000 n And I think thats but also part of it is that my peers and I felt like you cannot complain about any of this because they wont hire you. And a buddy movies are always men's movies. Did you think of it as there not being enough roles for women in their 40s? Bulgarian You were attached to other projects. GROSS: Yeah. So there's no way for us to really know where the investigation is, even though it's now, oh - what? Slovene 0000000976 00000 n And I was really worried about coming off as if I didn't know anything, that people would be saying, she doesn't even know where to stand or what to do. Catalan This Changes Everythings choppy, frenetic approach to editing makes for an uneven rhetorical texture. Geena Davis is also an executive producer of the film. Told first-hand by some of Hollywood's leading voices behind and in front of the camera, THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING is the award-winning 2019 feature-length documentary that uncovers what is beneath one of the most confounding dilemmas in the entertainment industry - the underrepresentation and misrepresentation of women. An investigative look and analysis of gender disparity in Hollywood, featuring accounts from well-known actors, executives and artists in the Industry. And I was so shocked when my coach said after just a few months, well, now you've got to start competing. And I had spent so much time in a field where you're measured by people's judgment, you know, where, you know, you're approved of by others' opinions rather than factual merit.