I agree with TT and Dyspeptic Gunsmith! Now that Ruger has this rifle I see it as an ideal platform for a Scout. Is everybody else lying or is somthing else going on here ? The best group I got out of the RPR in .308 was a .845 MOA group from some 178 gr. 10%-20% of the 5-shot groups with my hand loads get down to 0.25 MOA. Think theyd ever release a 20 SR762 in a configuration like this? Its just a matter of wearing down the bumps and filling in the pits with copper. Im a bit surprised at the lack of accuracy. The barrel length on a competition .22, which has to be shot standing off-hand (as well as sitting, kneeling and prone) is over 24 inches. He has been writing for The Truth About Guns for four years and specializes in hunting, the outdoors, gun, and gear reviews. The base model Ruger Precision Rifle, in .308 Winchester, is 42.75 inches long with its stock extended, three inches wide, and 7.3 inches high. Ive tried various weights and loads, factory and handloads. RPRNation.com has a nice list of upgrades and parts for this rifle. Also, I havent seen anyone publish a review on the 308 who shot 168 or 175 Federal Gold Metal Match ammo or BLack Hills Match ammo. Our mail forwarding address is: James Wesley, Rawles We knew this was not going to work at this range with the different velocity and bullet weight, and the notorious 3 MOA accuracy of military ball ammunition. The RPR is built of similar parts with a much higher degree of final finish. Ive got just under 3,000 rounds through it and am paying close attention to groups for any signs of throat erosion. Paid $1079.00. In WW II they were 03 Sprinfields and Garands. Only the military can legally shoot down people at long range, and for nothing more sinister than wearing the wrong clothing. However, it was at least vindicating to see that both guns had cheek rests with some flex. That guy did more for barrel length arguments than anyone ever. Otherwise the old 6.555 is ballistically identical to the Creedmoor. I gave the 6.5 a four-star rating that was much more like a 4.8. Notify Me When Available. Velocity loss is a problem in long range shooting. Where the .308 seemed to struggle against the 6.5 was consistent accuracy. My current .308 bolt gun is a 13 pound target rifle. I hope to get this kind of accuracy myself. A good 3-940 scope priced under a hundred bucks can suffice. If a $1,000 Ruger Hawkeye performed like this, Id give it a brutal review. Only mod for the new barrel was a custom cut of the barrel down to 21 3/4 from 22 to achieve the best barrel harmonics. What did matter was hacking off a four-inch section of 4140 and cutting the aluminum handguard back a few inches. My .308 RPR turned in a .443 with Federal Gold 168 gr. Not sure what the tells you but getting sighted in was 2 shots and I was in business. Tunnel Rabbit, Ive always wanted a 6.555 Swede because it looked so efficient. We greatly appreciate your support to help keep this blog up and running! So yes, remove that stupid brake and put a good flash HIDER in it. Web1) Vortex Viper HST 6-24x50mm Rifle Scope. Second, the Creedmore is just as powerful as the harder recoiling .308 downrange due to its higher BC. Weight is your friend with target rifles. And the Germans used Mauser 98s. (42) Ruger American Ranch 223 Remington/5.56 NATO Bolt Action Rifle. Jima and Texas Prepper stole my thunder muzzle brakes SUCK. This rifle can be competitive with $3K-$7K rifles with a custom barrel & more rigid handguard for less than $1K more. The set-up looks more than a little different than your typical bolt-action hunting rifle, thats for sure. But how can you beat it at that price point a question I have been asked by a number of fellow shooters in my area and how can you improve on it. They make them for the RPR. With the 6.5 CM you should expect no worse than .65-.75 MOA at any range up to 500 yards with minimal wind gusts. That being said it wont shoot (accurately) past about 850 yards. When Nick wrote that review, he said street price was $650. An RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor (review here) and one in .308 WIN . Ive had many bolt-action hunting rifles that wouldnt give me that kind of accuracy. Then add a Limb Saver, or a sand bag. In the review above, you claim to have put a brake on this rifle but you didnt specify whether the groups were shot with or without the brake, or whether you tested for any effect of the brake on group size. The recoil should then be tolerable if you are recoil sensitive. Youll need it with that short barrel. Im guessing the exterior dimensions of the barrels are the same, making the .308 a thinner barrel. If every bullet leaves the barrel at exactly the same speed it doesnt really matter how much the muzzle whips around because every bullet will be thrown off in the same direction. If I had to grab one of these and run though, I think Id still go for my late 70s Ruger M77 in 7mm Mag. of it. all day long. I wont doubt that, and Im sure their (insert hunting rifle here) is a fine rifle. The 129 gr. My SR762 is surprisingly a bit more accurate than this rifle with 168 grain match ammo. Blindfolded, I could still pick out the difference between the 6.5 and the .308 based purely off heft. had about 1\2 min. Jeff Quinn over at Gunblast described the Creedmore barrel as about 7/8 inch at the muzzle. David Tubb, a shootist who is as inhumanly accurate as Jerry Miculek is fast, sells a fire-lapping kit as do others. WebRuger American .308 Winchester 22" Black Vortex Crossfire 3-9x40. WebA 308 Ruger Precision Riflescope should offer a high level of precision, reliability, and versatility. A $3/month subscription. From the trigger to the patented multi-magazine interface (which functions interchangeably with AICS and M110/SR-25/DPMS/Magpul-style magazines and some M14 magazines) to its compatibility with the AR-15 platform and beyond, I have a really hard time dinging it much. If you wish to lap out rough spots in a barrel after it has been cut and chambered, theres really only one way to do it that thats fire-lapping. Ill take good care. WebRuger M77-GS 308 Gunsite Scout Rifle with Threaded Barrel. it is and always has been a super accurate rifle, as long as you dont fire more than 3 or 4 rounds and heat up the barrel it goes south pretty fast when it gets hot. As these weight savings came from the muzzle end of things, the .308 version is much faster to shoulder and doesnt fatigue the support arm with offhand shooting. After I started reloading and found the magic round, it averaged for the next 2000 rounds (before I burned it out) a .34 MOA all targets good bad and ugly between 100 to 800 yards. IMR 4064 powder It can be any long gun, that is capable of placing the shots where you want them to be. If you can not find RL22, get these powers in this order: IMR 4831, Norma MRP, or H4350. WebModel Number: 18028 Caliber: 308 Win StockFolding, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height FinishType III Black Hard-Coat Anodized Barrel Length20" BarrelCold Hammer Gun Review: Ruger Precision Rifle in .308 WIN. Glad that Pat included a bit of talk about shooting down people at long range. My volunteer shooter was not allowed to make any adjustments after I got the stock and scope adjusted for my shooting position. No its not an RPR, and you actually have to put in a little work to get it, but that same 10 pound gun is now an accurate action mounted/torqued in an all aluminum chassis and will perform as good, if not better than the RPR. Lighter, shorter and is actually a 1/2MOA rifle. For my part, I am amazed on the number of growed -up men who reluctantly approach my 03 Springfield like it was a Safari rifle. All of the minor gripes I had about the buttstock on the 6.5 rear their ugly head on the .308. I have a Remington model 600 350 Rem Mag that I would not want to shoot a few boxes of ammo at the range for the sake of my shoulder (or wallet ) but, it was not intended for plinking. WebHeight: 7.30". Dyspeptic Gunsmith, The two Gen 2 RPR 6 CMs I bought running side by side tests averaged about the same. Targets were set-up at 100 yards, and I did a lot of walking back and forth to check my targets no spotting scope. A One-Time Donation (You choose the amount): A $5 Dollar bill, a 5 Euro bill, a few Pre-1965 silver dimes, or a booklet of Forever U.S. postage stamps sent in the mail also works! Good rant. But they shouldnt be too disappointed in their results, if the thing will only shoot 1.5MOA with good ammo. I dont hear Ms. Weiss complain about weight or barrel length ever. To save you the humiliation of asking a girl how much rifle shes hefting while she out-shoots you, Ill give you the answer: Same as my Annie over 10 pounds. On the same scale on the same day, the 6.5 weighed in at 10.824 lbs. BTW, cold bore it shot dead center and 1.5 high with the R700 setup at 100 yards. $588.49. On to the biggest difference. Thats war. I buy them used for $450-$550 Canadian. If carrying a 15 pound rifle to the range is not an issue it would make sense to have a 26 barrel. Safety: Ambidextrous 45 manual safety selector. All youre sacrificing by going to a shorter barrel is a loss of velocity. But this gun is so well thought out and functional. target shooting, but with the 20 barrel I dont think Ill ever get there. I love the Black Hills .300 Win Mag load, and I managed to duplicate their accuracy, but I just couldnt exceed it no matter how hard I tried, and the same goes for the .308 Winchester caliber I could match Black Hills in the accuracy department, but never beat them. The gun that Ruger made is very close to the guns I saw on the line at this years Bushnell Brawl. They are virtually identical, but the Creedmoor is a tad faster, and because it is a modern rifle, and sold as a precision rifle, and factory ammunition is tailored for accuracy at long ranges, the rifle will likely be more accurate straight out of the box. To me, thats a must for a true precision rifle. I have not yet loaded custom rounds for the Ruger Precision Rifle to see if it can be tightened up; However, the .308 win has been around a while and there is no doubt that a rifle marketed to be precision should shoot 1.5 MOA or better. Ive had my RPR in 308 for about a year now. The weights vary by chambering, but with the lightest model starting at 9.7 lbs. Where the magnums are way ahead. I dont know why this one isnt a lights-out shooter like the 6.5. I have seen plenty of reviews (in AR) where they may have tried to downplay bad results but they still printed the numbers. These new ELD bullets have MUCH better physical characteristics than the 168 gr. I still try to shoot with iron sights to keep my consistency intact. My Rock River LAR-8 shoots the same bullet .75 MOA. Get the firepower necessary to survive in restrictive states! But, just like the 6.5, this can easily be addressed thanks to the compatibility with AR-15 parts. The .308 still gets a four-star rating but its really more of a 4.1 or 4.2 because of the accuracy issues. Canadians used .303 Lee Enfields. Its just not a 1000 yrd. It comes Four inches may not sound like a lot, but it can mean the world when working off a barrier or out of a truck where that length can mean being able to quickly bring the gun to bear, or having to take a step back to give yourself more room to work. First Aerial Test of F-35s GAU-22/A 25mm! Beginners can buy one of these and do the range time they need to gain some measure of proficiency while shooting out the factory barrel. UPC7-36676-18029-5. JWR Adds: The Ruber RPR is also offered in the very popular 6.5 Creedmoor chambering, which was just recently the topic of a feature article in SurvivalBlog. In a survival situation, we have to look at a lot of different things, before we pull the trigger on someone, who is on our property maybe they are just lost, and pose no real threat to us. Some of the best bolt-action rifles include the Remington 700, Tikka T3x TAC A1, and Ruger Precision Rifle. My RPR in 338 Lapua broke after 38 shots of factory ammo. As Ive mentioned in several of my rifle tests, I have a nice shaded spot at the 465-yard line thats a great place to spend a day testing long-range shooting accuracy. It would be a very efficient rifle on the field. Theres no inherent difference in the accuracy of a .308 and a 6.5 Creedmoor other than whats been pointed out about the Creedmoor being a little less prone to wind drift. I have 12 x 18 steel plates up at the property out to 800 meters if I move back to a pasture to shoot. A little over 2-2.5 off-hand. Trigger: Ruger Marksman Adjustable trigger, pull weight of 2.25 to 5 pounds; bolt disassembly tool is stored in the bolt shroud. So if you can get it done with a shorter barrel, you should, as the payoff in handling is well worth the velocity penalty. I ran the gun hard and didnt give it optimal conditions in which to perform because I wanted to see a worst case scenario. $1,039.00 $989.99. This level of customization is only going to get better as this rifle gains market traction. So far, so good. Of course, no matter how a rifle is made, if it wont shoot accurately, it is of no use to the man or woman behind the trigger. With very little training, you can sure make a head-shot on a human-sized target at 100-yards with this set-up. When I first got to basic, that rifle did to me what it did to everybody else, at first, and that would be giving every one first shooting it a massive goose-egg on their cheek, we all lived to shoot another day. It's essentially a .308 Winchester, Cant really believe it doesnt come with a bipod spud, which wouldnt have cost much, because I cant really believe people are going to put vertical grips, flashlights and other such nonsense on a rifle like this. Thats surprising as .308 has a reputation as being an inherently accurate, consistent cartridge. WBT offers California & other state compliant rifles from any brand you want. This makes it easy for anyone one to quickly get into the long range precision game. ; wrench is stored in the bolt shroud. Oh, and theres accuracy, but more on that later. The other weakness, and the one that no gun can really overcome is that the 6.5 just bucks the wind better. Different calibers offered include .300 PRC, 6.5 PRC, 6.5 Creedmoor, .308 Winchester, and a few Magnum calibers. Well for me I bought the 6.5 creedmoor. Its a good thing Bumblebees dont know they cant fly. Weight and length dont matter so much when youre going to tote it to the firing line in a cart. Where these accuracy gremlins really start to manifest themselves was out at the quarter-mile line and beyond. I would love to have that rifle. Not as bad as shooting 3 1/2 goose loads out of a lightweight 12 gauge, but still noticeable. And if you ask me, you are getting a lot of sniper rifle for that kind of money. Oh, BTW, my first time reading TTAG, I like it. Before I struggled to get consistently below .5 with factory ammo.