Dennis, known as the BTK killer for his method of bind, torture, kill, murdered at least 10 women from 1974 to 1991. According to Troy Taylor, the founder of American Hauntings, Fox Hollow Farm has never disappointed, with groups that visited the farm reporting everything from voices and footsteps to feelings of being punched, pinched, and even choked. Once again, it didnt take long. A lot of them were taken on their way to or on their way home from Indys gay nightclubs, but now in the fall of 1994, things were about to change. [00:11:00] He knew enough about the drug to notice the telltale behavioral changes it produced. Human remains in your own backyard are hard to overlook. WebWe know that Juliana is single at this point. A look inside the terrifying walls of Fox Hollow Farm: 'Even if you Yes! When Herb discovered there was awarrant for his arrest, he fled to Ontario, Canada, and killed himself. On June 24, 1996, while Herb was out of town, Julie allowed the police to search Fox Hollow Farm. Julie demanded answers from Herb. In 2015, the Graves family agreed to allow the haunted attraction company to bring five annual trips to the house, at around $90 per person. By the end of the second search, this area alone had produced the remains of seven additional [00:18:30] victims. In 1987 in upstate New York, a convicted [00:21:00] killer was paroled early after he was deemed no longer dangerous to society. In the years since the Baumeisters left the estate, dozens of people have reported that the farm is haunted, with some even claiming that the spirit of Herb Baumeister himself still walks there. Ep: 49 - Herb Baumeister & The House on Fox Hollow Farm The Psychology of Serial Killers. While researching this case, I came across something highly unusual, something I never really expected, and fairly rare among the ranks of serial killers similar to Herb. The story of Herb Baumeister and Fox Hollow Farm is bizarre in so many ways. Police believe that Baumeister may have murdered many more. In June of 1996 at the age of 49, Herbs life was continuing to crumble around him. Other family members and associates include Herbert Saiter, Emily Saiter, Sandra Baumeister, Herbert Baumeister and Elizabeth Baumeister. If Ive been asked to keep quiet about something, I do. Fox Hollow Farm murders: Where bodies were buried is now for sale But Sgt. Its the kind of home that could be paradise. Two other people Scott A Baumeister and Colleen Jasken are associated with this address. Happiness as we knew it is never going to return, Julie told People magazine. If Herron is concerned that the history of the place will make it a hard sell, he doesnt show it. He likes country music. The last few summers, shed taken the kids to the familys lakeside condo 100 miles away, leaving Herb to focus on business back in Westfield alone. But at the same time, he seems appalled at the callous treatment of this dead raccoon. Its a neat election-year ploy to get some sheriffs, and some people who are incompetent, re-elected.. And I cant get to sleep again. But Herb Baumeister is the only suspect we have., Not everyone was as convinced. Listener discretion is advised. The bones appear to represent one of the most gruesome acts of serial murder that Indiana has ever seen. Herb didnt explain why they were in the woods behind their home, and a few days later, they were gone. Scott Benjamin: [00:00:30] Herb Baumeister lived a double life as the I70 strangler. While working at the Bureau of Motor Vehicles from 1974 until 1985, Herb Baumeister managed to work his way up to the rank of Program Director, but his coworkers also noted odd behavior, including one report of him urinating on a letter addressed to the governor or possibly on the desk of his supervisor. Oxygen Insider is your all-access pass to never-before-seen content, free digital evidence kits, and much more! Because when Julie was away, Herb could be his true self. There also happened to be a dead raccoon on the road. The Graveses and their sons work as housekeepers, groundskeepers, and do-it-yourselfers to keep the sprawling property in top shape. In one incident, he was fired for repeatedly urinating on his supervisors desk, Fannie Weinstein and Melinda Wilson wrote in their book on the case, Where the Bodies are Buried.. He kept reaching out to me." I know it sounds like a dream to some of you, and I thought it might be too. In the fall of 1994, Julie Baumeisters 13-year-old son found human remains on the familys $1 million estate, Fox Hollow Farm. I feel like Im aging a lot faster than I ever have before. When people hear about the wives of serial killers, they likelythink of women who married a man after his conviction. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. And a special thanks to Joe Melillo [00:29:00] and WISH TV. The two began dating, much to the chagrin of the girl's parents, who felt Jerrywas too old for their daughter. To find out about more unions that ended in tragedy, watch "A Wedding and A Murder," premieringMonday, Sept. 9at 9/8c. Fox Hollow Farm ranks among its most popular destinations, said Troy Taylor, American Hauntings founder. For his crime in Royal Oak, the judge gave Dotson a harsh sentence, a year and a half in prison. All of them had been strangled to death. Herb Baumeister: This was just Pretty sure a chalk line drawn [00:27:30] around his career by state officials. Listener discretion is advised. Herbs double life held a lot of secrets. Three months later, the couplemarried,expected their first child, and moved to Kansas City, MO. She Thought Something Was Off About Her Husband. Then Her The search yielded thousands of burnt, scattered human bone fragments, enough for at least 11 bodies. The man who called himself Brian Smart was actually Herb Baumeister, and in November of 1995, police approached the couple at Fox Hollow Farm. Erich, Herbs son, was about to make a gruesome discovery in the woods. In June 1972, John WayneGacy married his second wife, Carol Hoff. When the informant finally opened his eyes, Smart appeared rattled, and he claimed he was scared because [00:12:00] the man had lost consciousness. Harris new acquaintance took him on a long drive to a mansion with an indoor pool, where they engaged in the risky practice of erotic asphyxiation. Not the kind of nightmares that a child might have, but the kind that can only come from the mind of a grown adult that seen a little too much real life horror, read a little too much of the macabre, and someone whos experienced a lot of recent pain and loss. Serial Killer Next Door: Herb Baumeister and the Multiple In this role, I wear many hats: content creation/curation, social media The only witnesses to his brutal and unusual crimes were the mannequins and they arent talking. Well answer that question along the way. The Baumeister family was ready to move into their new dream home. It wasnt until one man was shaken enough by a violent sexual encounter with a wealthy man named Brian Smart that he came forward to police. Julie is currently living at 5599 Park Place Drv, Shoreview, MN 55126-9127. Robinson was a family man and good neighbor, grilling hamburgers on the weekends for neighborhood cookouts. She wouldnt have raised us with him., Kelly Otis, a detective who was on the BTK task force, agreed, saying, Its absolutely true; they never knew about it.. "Already prepared in his mind, I think. Doctor Psycho Podcast - A Forensic Psychology Podcast WebHerb and Julie Baumeister before the bloom left the rose. of seven men on the Baumeister property. Ep: 190 - Herb Baumeister / I-70 Strangler" - Reloaded - The House of Fox Hallow Farm - The Psychology of Serial Killers, AKA The "I-70 Strangler" and responsible for "The Gay Murders" in Indiana in the late 1980's and early 1990's was an odd man that rode around in a hearse and urinating on a lot of different things, Ep: 49 - Herb Baumeister & The House on Fox Hollow Farm The Psychology of Serial Killers, Erotophonophilia & Auto-Erotic Asphixiation, prolific serial killer and murderer who turned his massive estate. He had shot himself and left a three-page suicide note, but he did not mention the murders he was believed to have committed. I wanted to make a joke at the [city] council meeting and say that we hope we dont find any bones while were building, but I decided to keep it professional, Herron told the Indianapolis Star. This time, Harris got a license plate number. Authorities knocked on the door of the Baumeister residence in November of 1995 and asked Herb for permission to search his estate. Some of my dads favorites that hed allow me to take off his shelf for a few weeks at a time. That was all Harris could offer until 1995, when, in a stroke of luck, Brian revisited the bar. Herb shrugged. She told "Dateline, "Especially when he said he was going hunting, and he was dressed up nice and had cologne on. In 1978, 27 bodies turned up in Gacy's crawl space, which led to the killer's arrest. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. The phone numbers of Julie are (651) 638-1980 (Qwest Corp), (651) 470-7551 (Cellco PartnershipQwest Corp). In an exclusive interview with E! As investigators combed his home and grounds, Baumeister disappeared. Then Her Son Found A Human Skull. In 1994, Julie Baumeister had been having problems in her marriage. She thought her husband, Herb Baumeister, was acting off though people had been saying that about Herb since he was a teen telling lewd jokes and playing with dead animals. He even once urinated on a teachers desk. They. Credits: [00:21:30] Insomniac is a production of iHeart Radio and Tenderfoot TV written and hosted by Scott Benjamin and produced by Miranda Hawkins, Alex Williams, Matt Frederick and Josh Thane. She asked Erich to take her to where he had found it. They paid $987,000 with the help of a silent partner, though the property had been put on the market for $2.8 million in 2004. Case 1 | Insomniac Podcast According to the informant, he visit one of Indys gay nightclubs, and he saw another man who was overly interested in a missing persons poster that had been tacked on the clubs wall. On June 24, 1996, investigators recovered more than 5,000 human bone fragments buried in the property. We asked neighbors around there if theyve ever seen ghosts, and they said no, he told the Star. Julie didnt go to the police. [00:07:00] How he found a way to share his terrible secret with an entire group of onlookers, and he knew that none of them would ever report him to the police. The legal term for such a property is psychologically affected. While laws regarding psychologically affected properties vary from state to state, in Indiana, sellers dont have to volunteer information about a propertys sordid history unless they are directly asked. Founded in 2010, Thought Catalog is owned and operated by The Thought & Expression Company, Inc. For over a decade, we've been at the bleeding edge of media, pioneering an infrastructure for creatives to flourish both artistically and financially. Chapter One Extreme Measures to Keep Shameful Truth from Being What she means by that is she saw him as a devoted, if often absent husband, a good father [00:15:00] to their three children and a successful provider for the family. A front row seat to view the thoughts and actions of a killer, their victims, their families, and even the authorities as they worked the other side in an effort to bring them down. Youll find the makeshift graveyard beneath the drainage pipe just like his neighbor did where rib cages peeked out from an unkempt lawn. Whenauthorities discoveredtwo barrels containing bodies on Robinson's farm property, murder charges soon followed. While Ridgway was incarcerated, he maintained his innocence and told Mawson that the police had captured the wrong person. In 1988, Herbs mother, Elizabeth Baumeister loan him the money to open his own thrift store. It turned out to be the missing link they needed. Their website calls Fox Hollow Farm one of the most terrifying locations we have EVER investigated. They claim that the Graves family found even more human remains on the farm, and that they have witnessed apparitions and heard voices, knocks, and footsteps in the house. People who knew Baumeister as a child said he was always an oddball, uneasy with people and known for behavior that was just plain weird. Now that we know more about abuse, Id venture a guess that she simply thought believing her husbands story and not asking questions was the safest option for her and her children. [00:14:30] Its a question I always have regarding the spouses of serial killers, how is it possible that they dont know their partner is guilty of murdering people outside and sometimes even inside their own home? There Is No Reason To Read This Book - amazon.com Youre going to learn how the I70 Strangler found a way around this dilemma. In 1996, Julie permitted police onto her property. Next time on Insomniac. In this episode, Michael Drane, UPC's resident psychotherapist dives into the Psychology of Erotophonophilia & Auto-Erotic Asphixiation. Was it really the pressures of a failed marriage and business, or was there something more sinister to the story? In the 80s, Herb and Julie opened up two thrift stores and made enough money to buy their dream home. Fox Hollow Farm was a sprawling 18-acre estate complete with a 5 bedroom home and indoor pool. From the outside, it looked as if the Baumeisters had achieved the perfect life. [00:17:00] Brian Smart was actually Herb Baumeister, a resident of the nearby suburb of Westfield, Indiana. Julie Baumeister Sometimes [00:04:00] they were gone for weeks at a time, leaving Herb at home alone to watch over the Save-A-Lot stores. Sometime after their marriage Herb was institutionalized by his father for a month with Julies blessing but the story surrounding that was that Herb was depressed. Payne Lindsey: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the authors and participants, and do not necessarily represent those of iHeartMedia, Stuff Media, or its employees. When his wife confronted him about the magazines, he informed herhe preferred men over women. In their 23 years of marriage she says theyd had sex six times, just enough to produce their three children. He always had dog eared pages and some handwritten notes in the margins or on the backside of the cover [00:23:00] as if he was trying to piece the story together himself, to solve the crime before he finished the last chapter. While in their early 20s, John Robinson and Nancy Jo Lynchmet in Chicago, IL, in December 1963. Troubles continued in college and in the working world. Every summer, Julie would take their son Erich and their two daughters, Marne and Emily, to a lake house owned by Herbs mother. AfterRader confessed to the murders, Dietz filed for an emergency divorce, which the court granted in July 2005. The couple who bought the home have seen dismembered spirits in their home and in their woods. Here are five women who unknowingly married serial killers: Paula Rader was married to her husband Dennis for 34 years before she found out he was a serial killer. Was he attempting to pretend to be a normal, [00:28:00] functioning member of society? August 15, 2017. According to Julie, Herb was a devoted and even doting father, helping his kids with everything from schoolwork to making their peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwiches. When Julie asked Herb Baumeister, her husband of 23 years, about the bones, he told her they were from his anesthesiologist fathers medical school skeleton. [00:17:00] Did she really know nothing until the authorities took her aside and told her that her husband was the prime suspect in what they called at the time multiple homosexual homicides? Even [00:05:30] after she realized that it had somehow disappeared just a few days later. Tell the wrong person, and youll end up in prison for life or receiving a death sentence. If somebody has any information, wed be happy to look at it, Hancock County Sheriff James Bradbury said of the case. Their finances were doing well and their marriage was apparently stable. The ordeal frightened Harris, and he went to the police. The man noted that Smart was driving a gray Buick with [00:10:00] Ohio license plates. Theres the Greek myth of Pygmalion, the sculptor who fell in love with the statue he had carved. Theres Herb standing on the edge of his property [00:26:30] wearing a suit and tie and looking exactly how you would imagine a successful small business owner might look in the 1990s. Brian Smart turned out to be Herb Baumeister. I find myself looking at crime scene photos [00:01:30] for hours at a time. Members of the Graves family are far from the only ones who have reported strange goings-on at and around Fox Hollow Farm. It was called Fox Hollow Farm, and the sprawling property with the nearly 10,000 square foot house, horse stables, [00:03:30] a separate apartment, wooded areas, and even an indoor pool was the familys dream. 5 Women Who Unknowingly Married Serial Killers - Oxygen Didnt even move it. But heres how all of this came to be. However, since there was really no cause for alarm, [00:04:30] the two parted ways. [00:01:00] I have nightmares, extremely vivid, realistic nightmares that prevent me from sleeping sometimes for several nights in a row. Probably carried away by animals. She thought to herself. Baumeister is accused of luring LGBTQ men from Indianapolis gay bars to his Westfield home where the authorities said he killed them. The victims were: By the time an arrest warrant was issued for Herb Baumeister, he had disappeared.