FYI, today scratch isn't nearly as good as you may think it is. I just rang my buddy who does long drive and I didn't realize he has x7's in his Naks. You just cant help yourself when you hear such stupidity from people who havent fit hundreds of talented people. They spun about 200-300 rpm less than X100 for me in a 6 iron. They both have a low launch angle which means that they are designed for distance. To keep shaft weights as close to identical as possible, True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue is measured to plus-or-minus half a gram, which is as tight as you can get with a steel shaft in the. You just have no idea. I'd love to try X7, but reality is telling me that my next set will have 7.0s. Swinging in to out is so much easier when you do this! What is WAY less? timestamp='1355712569' post='6078973'] [/quote] Its a steel shaft, my posts on this topic are simply to get people that think that a steel shaft is going to change launch and spin by so much that it's going to make any change in on course scoring or performance. It's also about 8g heavier than a normal tapered tip X-100 shaft. On the putter side, Scotty Cameron creates Tour-only flatsticks out of high-end materials (German Stainless Steel) that cost far too much to mass-produce. Dynamic Gold X100 First Impressions We actually thought the Dynamic Gold X100 was lighter than 130 grams. To help you make the right choice, we compared the Dynamic Gold X100 and Dynamic Gold X7 shafts. Just hitting outside. My current bag is X100 in wedges and X7 from p - 2 iron. I know PX's are supposed to launch higher, but I'm having trouble believing something at FCM 7.5 lauches THAT high. [quote name='savoyspecial13' timestamp='1355714377' post='6079129'] It really doesn't matter. Like Mad said before, they are certainly more playable than they would appear based on the specs. Morning 9: Another Tiger surgery | Ko looking to end major drought | Lexi playing hurt at first major, Controversial analyst says Phil Mickelson and LIV golf were the winners at 2023 Masters, Morning 9: Tour announced new fall schedule | Cowherd: LIV won Masters | Tiger 1997 Masters ball at auction. Its a steel shaft, my posts on this topic are simply to get people that think that a steel shaft is going to change launch and spin by so much that it's going to make any change in on course scoring or performance. "The Dynamic Gold X100 is one of the Tour Issue shafts in the Dynamic Gold series." This is a tour-weighted steel shaft that gives better players the accuracy and distance they need. The 7.0s flew higher than X100. [quote name='MadGolfer76' timestamp='1355718783' post='6079509'] Having played both combinations, the X-100 shaft tipped/hardstepped up to 2" is still nothing compared to the DG Tour (X7). Wow. You cannot paste images directly. [/quote] Dynamic Gold is notorious for having a pronounced weld seam/spine and the frequency slope will not be linear if they are not spined to compensate for the weld/spine. [/quote] Same results for both of us- 7.0 highest. [quote name='J.W.' They were born out of the Black Gold series (TT first ever frequncy matched set) when players started asking TT if they could get a frequency matched set of DG's. [quote name='savoyspecial13' timestamp='1355707253' post='6078523'] No one is forcing you to post, comment or get involved. Do the black gold shafts compare at all to the x7 and tour issue (weight sorted)? My hope is that the differences in shaft profile is overcome by the additional stiffness on the 7.0 so that the two fly pretty much the same but lower spin on the 7.0. (E.g., pulling a pw or 6i back to the fringe from pin high can be disheartening at times). [/quote] True Temper Dynamic Gold X Seven By Russ Ryden, A Golf Digest America's 100 Best Clubfitter Fit2Score, Dallas Fort Worth, Texas What new product can a company offer to strong golfers when they already have two of the most popular shafts in play on the PGA tour, the Dynamic Gold X100 and the Project X? The equipment rules even apply to golf shafts. [quote name='chiva' timestamp='1355728871' post='6079885'] Tempo is not how fast you swing it, it is how you swing it fast. I'll say this- the X7 absolutely launches lower and spins WAY less than the C Taper. Dynamic Gold X7 came in response to the modern, stronger golfer with a faster swing who needs help lowering ball flight and spin. Going from Burner 2.0 stock 85 gram regular to X7, sure the difference in feel is so great that a player that needs something much stiffer will make manipulations in his swing. Thanks for the reality check on tipping the x100's and saving me some time even thinking about it. Titleist Vokey SM8 Black 54.12D / Nippon Super Peening Blue X Stage-stepped, Titleist Vokey SM8 Black 58.14K / Nippon Super Peening Blue X Stage-stepped I'll try to post once I hit those things. I think you may have misinterpreted the threads as such and you yourself have 'jumped into' a critical conclusion. What Handicap Range Are They for? [quote name='stage1350' timestamp='1355698199' post='6077849'] didn't go out and switch clubs and shafts as much as I could trying to chase something that wasn't there. [/quote] Titleist Vokey SM8 Black 54.12D / Nippon Super Peening Blue X Stage-stepped, Titleist Vokey SM8 Black 58.14K / Nippon Super Peening Blue X Stage-stepped Otherwise, save your money. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Also: Congrats on Savy getting another personal best of 337 yards at the WLD event in Mesquite! The X100 version is 130-grams, extra-stiff. X7 has the exact same step pattern, but the steps are much thicker, allowing for increased butt stiffness to go along with the stiff tip that has been the hallmark of the Dynamic series of shafts. [/quote] JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. The launch slightly lower than X-100 but definitely reduce spin. DG Tours are exceptional. No one is forcing you to post, comment or get involved. IMO having hit X7 enough you're not gonna all of a sudden bounce a short or mid iron forward now instead of ripping it back 20 feet to the fringe. I'd love to try X7, but reality is telling me that my next set will have 7.0s. I think the real question is how does the x7 stack up against PX 7.0. To receive GOLFs all-new newsletters,subscribe for free here. [/quote] All fine shafts. Just hitting outside. Pasted as rich text. No trackman or anything. Feel wise, it's almost like going from S200 to S400, they feel stiffer but not a crazy amount. According to the USGA, both the X7 and X100 are considered legal to use in any casual, high-level amateur, or professional golf outings. It doesnt feel much heavier than other Dynamic Gold shafts weve tested; but then again, none of us are hypersensitive players. Here's a question for you: Are you still able to hit higher launching shots on command with the x7's or is it much more difficult? Yikes. Hm, I wouldnt say I spin my x100's 'too much' but I do from time to time get more spin than I want with my mid-pw. LIKE 10 LEGIT 2 WOW 0 LOL 2 IDHT 1 FLOP 0 OB 0 SHANK 2 Related Topics: Up Next Don't Miss Going from Burner 2.0 stock 85 gram regular to X7, sure the difference in feel is so great that a player that needs something much stiffer will make manipulations in his swing. Clement: How to smoke the golf ballwith your eyes closed, Clement: How to GENTLY hammer your drives 300 yards, Clement: Infallible release drill to add 30 yards to your drives. Scratch is like 10 times further away from a tour player than a 30 capper is from scratch. Unless you can honestly say that you launch X-100 too high and spin it too much, they won't be worth your money. MEMBER REVIEWS: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! You could hardstep them in if you managed to find an extra wedge shaft. Then take the heads and the new shafts in and you saved yourself a good amt of money. The X100 only has a 45 inch option. [quote name='CallawayLefty' timestamp='1355714457' post='6079137'] They are on par with the PX 7.0's in terms of firmness. I've hit them all very close to each other. Upload or insert images from URL. Some with 190 ball speed with a driver go from S300 to X100 and the spin change was 300-400 rpm's and this is a guy that can't keep it under 3000 with a driver. 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Ping Glide Stealth 50ss, 54ss, 60es. [quote name='savoyspecial13' timestamp='1355726505' post='6079833'] That's quite a bit for a steel shaft change but its not a dramatic difference at the end of the day. Tour Experience Golf Testing the KBS Tour C-Taper 130, Project X 7.0, True Temper Dynamic Gold X100, and True Temper Dynamic Gold X7 to see the differences in feel, timing, ball flight, spin rate, launch angle, and more! Nothing personal. I'll have a good clubmaker weight sort a set of "regular" X-100 shafts for a lot less money over the vanity of having a label that looks like a Project X. Mizuno ST200G 9 / Aldila Synergy Black Proto 75-TX [quote name='driverwedge' timestamp='1355716718' post='6079367'] They were noticeably firm, and launched low, but overall the feel was really nice and the performance was manageable. How about PX 6.0 vs DG X100 vs KBS Tour S+? When I was in better shape and didn't have a kiddo! They're very manageable. With tighter tolerances, Tour Issue is offered in just S400 (132 grams) and X100 (130 grams) flexes. In need of a stiffer model with a lower flight, True Temper designed X7 a shaft that has a stiffer, heavier overall profile than any other shaft in the Dynamic Gold lineup. [quote name='J.W.' Unless you can honestly say that you launch X-100 too high and spin it too much, they won't be worth your money. I have to track down some x7's now to try. [/quote] [/quote] All of them 170+ with the driver and the difference betweem S300 to X100 is small, unbelievably so. Hm, I wouldnt say I spin my x100's 'too much' but I do from time to time get more spin than I want with my mid-pw. [quote name='MadGolfer76' timestamp='1355701735' post='6078121'] Your Reaction? | Fully Equipped mailbag. It has a high bend point and would be great for mid tempo swingers. You dont need to do LD to swing these though. [/quote] so an x100 would be suited for a person? Your email address will not be published. LEARN MORE. Could be wrong. You can check my sig for specifics. Now on DGx100 tipped 1.5 play like X7.. resounding no. See What Members Are Saying! I'm more going off experience from club fitting hundreds of players, very rarely have I ever had a steel shaft change of a same/similar flex change spin by greater than 300 rpm of spin. I've hit them all very close to each other. It's a great piece that has proven its efficiency in improving performance and feel. I would agree with that but the X7's are almost a full flex stiffer (6.7 in the X100 vs. 7.5 in the X7's). Do the black gold shafts compare at all to the x7 and tour issue (weight sorted)? Any idea how the Dynamic Gold Tour Issue is different than the Standard Dynamic Gold? For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. timestamp='1355712569' post='6078973'] Guys. The move to X7 for me was based on the fact that I was ballooning X-100. The Dynamic Gold 120 shaft delivers the tour-caliber accuracy of Dynamic Gold in a lighter weight steel shaft. I have a [i]little. Lol Sorry buddy, but theres no room for that nonsense here! [/quote] The launch slightly lower than X-100 but definitely reduce spin. The x100's did what I wanted them to do 9 times out of ten. I know PX's are supposed to launch higher, but I'm having trouble believing something at FCM 7.5 lauches THAT high. I tried them and absolutely loved them. After your first swing, you can feel how incredibly stiff and strong this shaft is. Believe it or not, the USGA has very strict rules on the type of equipment that can be used in the game of golf. I think the real question is how does the x7 stack up against PX 7.0. i prefer the heavy weight at 130 grams, and the low flight they I've hit them all very close to each other. [/quote] They're very manageable. I was just trying to help, sorry MadGolfer!!!!!! How many fittings have you done? The game is hard enough when you're in equipment that fits much less stuff that doesn't. They're super stable and if you're able to work the ball anyway, you shouldn't have any problems. timestamp='1355704696' post='6078353'] [quote name='sbguard9' date='31 January 2010 - 07:13 PM' timestamp='1264986802' post='2217685'] How many fittings have you done? I just laugh at everyone who is scratch who think they are pretty good. The builder is an expert and the irons feel so much better compared to what they were with regular x100s from the original store. Stage and DriverWedge have experience with both. Featuring constant weight technology in taper tip irons and descending weight technology in parallel tip irons. Haha I understand about the family thing ENTER NOW! I just rang my buddy who does long drive and I didn't realize he has x7's in his Naks. Reviews. I'm more going off experience from club fitting hundreds of players, very rarely have I ever had a steel shaft change of a same/similar flex change spin by greater than 300 rpm of spin. I love learning about different rules and equipment surrounding the world of golf. [quote name='savoyspecial13' timestamp='1355702215' post='6078157'] Whats the difference between True Tempers Dynamic Golf and Dynamic Gold Tour Issue shafts? [quote name='savoyspecial13' timestamp='1355699744' post='6077991'] [/quote] X7 has the exact same step pattern, but the steps are much thicker, allowing for increased butt stiffness to go along with the stiff tip that has been the hallmark of the Dynamic series of shafts. [/quote] and have better logos on them? I think that is what they cost? Sounds like you're just having fun so if that's the case you may like them. That's a whole nuther thread. The OP has been playing golf less than 2 years and made another thread about wanting to play S300 in short irons and X100 in long irons but now wants to jump into X7's a day later. Unless you can honestly say that you launch X-100 too high and spin it too much, they won't be worth your money. A player with a quicker backswing and more aggressive transition will have a faster tempo, while a player with a slower backswing and smoother transition will have a more deliberate tempo. How many fittings have you done? They launch slightly lower than X100s but spin a bunch less. I used to do long drive a few years ago. I contacted Costco customer service and asked about the Kirkland Wedges and One of the most famous PGA tournaments is the Masters which is played at Augusta National. I've played X-100's forever. Dynamic Gold X7 Iron Shaft. I'm glad to hear you like the x7's and you have something you found that works for your game! Whats the difference between True Temper Dynamic Gold and Dynamic Gold Tour Issue shafts? Its a steel shaft, my posts on this topic are simply to get people that think that a steel shaft is going to change launch and spin by so much that it's going to make any change in on course scoring or performance. You dont need to do LD to swing these though. I never got the feeling that the x7's weren't "do-able." X7 has the exact same step pattern, but the steps are much thicker, allowing for increased butt stiffness to go along with the stiff tip that has been the hallmark of the Dynamic series of shafts. Clement: The secret to a proper and accurate in-to-out swing! well assuming you get your old iron shafts pulled, from golfsmith it costs 19.99 + grip which is about 7 bucks, from golf galaxy it's 17 to install, about 4 to pull, 3 to put on a new grip, plus the 7 dollar grip. Related Products. What i've heard from most of the best clubfitters is that with the dynamic golf tour issues do not have to be pured. TC Callaway XHot 3DEEP 13 / Graphite Design DI-10 TX, TC Callaway X2Hot 5DEEP 18.5 bent to 17 / Fujikura Ventus Black 10x, Callaway X-Forged UT 21 / Fujikura Ventus Black 10-TX, Callaway X-Forged UT 25 / Nippon Super Peening Blue X hs1x, Raw Mizuno MP-32 6-PW / Nippon Super Peening Blue X hs1x, Titleist Vokey SM8 Black 50.08F /Nippon Super Peening Blue X Stage-stepped They're in my 62s right now. Read More Skip to the end of the images gallery Skip to the beginning of the images gallery Technology & Features MODERATE TEMPO Mizuno St-Z 220 9.5/PX Hzrdus Smoke Blue Rdx 6.5. I've got C Taper X in my 64s to try something different. Honestly, I really liked the x7's. FT-9 TA Fubuki J 70x [quote name='driverwedge' timestamp='1355711483' post='6078861'] The length of a shaft plays a big role in speed and accuracy. True Temper golf shafts are in the bags of more players on the PGA, Korn Ferry, Champions, European and Japan Tour than all other shaft brands combined. I'm backing up everything Stage said. They aren't for everyone. For the S300 golfer, you may see slight distance increases and a higher ball flight because of the difference in shaft flex. Had them installed in Miura heads (5i - pw) @ $35/iron + $6 / tour velvet grip. Another similarity between these two golf shafts is their launch angle. [/quote] The #1 shaft in golf. [/quote] LEARN MORE. You will feel much better. [quote name='driverwedge' timestamp='1355716963' post='6079391'] Unless you have a really late release, they won't make any difference although they may feel good (or not). I've only been playing for a yr n a half now and so far golf appears to be one sport where equipment has had such a directly large influence on my results. [quote name='stage1350' timestamp='1355698199' post='6077849'] MXM 330m All Black Let us know how you hit them! Probably the best iron shafts around if they fit you but you will pay a lot for them even if you can find a set. See What Members Are Saying! The Dynamic Gold S400 is the standard stiff flex shaft of the True Temper collection. [/quote] You can't even play. So, no matter which one you go with you are going to be limited to the extra stiff option. Try everything and see what fits you. Happy to help! The stiffest shafts are Nippon Modus 3 130 X and Dynamic Gold X100 X7. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, By I still do. In terms of flex, both only offer the extra stiff option. I like the Rifles better than the LZ model, but a lot of golfers game the gentler LZ and love it. It doesnt sound like much but the X7 greatly improves control when fast swing speed players load and unload the shaft. Wow. They were born out of the Black Gold series (TT first ever frequncy matched set) when players started asking TT if they could get a frequency matched set of DG's. I have a [i]little. I've got C Taper X in my 64s to try something different. No issues with that. *Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc., or its affiliates. [quote name='J.W.' [/quote] [/quote] Now I am only talking about the basic Dynamic heavy weight shaft. Sounds like you're just having fun so if that's the case you may like them. The Dynamic Gold X100 is a famous golf shaft for PGA Tour players. Ok. Because the weight can differ slightly during production and because Dynamic Gold is a weight-sorted product the standard stiff flex is broken out into three sub-flexes: S200 (127 grams), S300 (130 grams) and S400 (134 grams). Description. Testing the KBS Tour C-Taper 130, Project X 7.0, True Temper Dynamic Gold X100, and True Temper Dynamic Gold X7 to see the differences in feel, timing, ball flight, spin rate, launch angle, and more! Tipping X-100 1/4" is not worth your time. For most articles, I utilize the resources given by the USGA and R&A. timestamp='1355704696' post='6078353'] well assuming you get your old iron shafts pulled, from golfsmith it costs 19.99 + grip which is about 7 bucks, from golf galaxy it's 17 to install, about 4 to pull, 3 to put on a new grip, plus the 7 dollar grip. Do the black gold shafts compare at all to the x7 and tour issue (weight sorted)? All I meant in that other post was that "Way more" is subjective depending on a person's situation. Given that both of these shafts have the same launch angle, you are going to be getting a similar shot with both of these, barring the impact of other specs on the club. The X7s are 20g heavier than these. Lee Janzen played them, that's how much it matters to really worry about iron shafts. That's a whole nuther thread. Thanks brother The Tour Golds are even more closely weight matched. They were noticeably firm, and launched low, but overall the feel was really nice and the performance was manageable. Not true- if you read my posts, it is clear I'm not 'wanting' to play anything one day nor do I want to 'jump into' anything the next day. [/i] I have gamed the x100's in the past and have hit a set of irons with the X7's in them. [quote name='savoyspecial13' timestamp='1355701646' post='6078117'] Dynamic Gold X7 is True Temper's heaviest, stiffest and lowest launching/spinning design. [/quote] Thanks again! C Taper (close 2nd) next then X7 as the lowest. X7 has the exact same step pattern, but the steps are much thicker, allowing for increased butt stiffness to go along with the stiff tip that has been the hallmark of the Dynamic series of shafts. The strength of this shaft is really outstanding. Theres no need for sub-flexes. You can check my sig for specifics. That's quite a bit for a steel shaft change but its not a dramatic difference at the end of the day. DW actually told me there isn't a stiffer shaft to be found, but the x7's are performers. They spun about 200-300 rpm less than X100 for me in a 6 iron. I will describe them this way, and I'm a feel player, Heavy(heavier)-exceptionally tight dispersion-surprisingly lively. The .610 diameter is really what makes a huge difference in performance. I tried them and absolutely loved them. Had them and really liked them and like an idiot, got rid of them. We actually thought the Dynamic Gold X100 was lighter than 130 grams. Apparently the added weight increases shaft wall thickness, resulting in about a third of a flex increase in x3's vs. x1's (prior to hard-stepping, if you decide to go that route), but there is some unresolved debate about that. I guess just wait for pulls if you can find them, but then you're not sure of the quality. This might be a longshot, but can anyone compare the X7 to Nippon NS Pro Prototype C10 shafts? HOCKEY. They aren't for everyone. [quote name='MadGolfer76' timestamp='1355714317' post='6079127'] If you are looking for a slightly lower launch trajectory and a bit more control over your shots, the X100 is a better fit. The tip is reinforced. Available now, or soon from TT Tour Concept dealers. So, if you are not used to hitting with a 45 inch shaft, you may want to consider choosing a shorter option with the X7. It really doesn't matter. I saw those minimal spin differences when comparing C taper S+, PX 6.5 and X100. I know perfectly well that the shaft doesn't lower spin as much as people would like to think or hope. Scratch ain't s***. Amp Cell Pro / DG Pro X I've got C Taper X in my 64s to try something different. [/quote] Manage Settings I think the real question is how does the x7 stack up against PX 7.0. I heard the max TW put into play was a half inch. I am a very average golfer, but love to learn about the rules, equipment, and stories of golf. LEARN MORE. Both are designed with the same step pattern (tapered) but the DG Tour has thicker steps and a larger butt section that X-100. timestamp='1355712569' post='6078973'] I'm the first to say it may be a swing fault first, but I wonder if equipment like the x7 would help support more consistancy and minimize the extra spin and higher than desirable launch I often get from my short irons. Because Tour players are far more discerning when it comes to their clubs, a difference of plus-or-minus two grams can be noticed by a professional. I'll say this- the X7 absolutely launches lower and spins WAY less than the C Taper. For the past five years I've played the Dynamic Gold x100 and just ordered a new set of iron. Could be wrong. Validation at its finest. [quote name='driverwedge' timestamp='1355716718' post='6079367'] Drive Further. A lighter golf shaft like the X100 will allow golfers to generate more swing speed in comparison, but may be a bit more inaccurate. To players who fight to keep spin down, any gain might be considered way less. All rights reserved. Performance wise, I notice the spin reduction over the X100s more than launch reduction. To keep shaft weights as close to identical as possible, True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue is measured to plus-or-minus half a gram, which is as tight as you can get with a steel shaft in the industry. Same results for both of us- 7.0 highest. [quote name='JLTES' date='31 January 2010 - 05:58 PM' timestamp='1264989485' post='2217786'] Thanks for the reality check on tipping the x100's and saving me some time even thinking about it. The designs of certain golf shafts can promote more or less spin so keep this in mind when looking for a shaft to maximize your game. Mizuno M-Craft I Blue Ion 365g / Stability Shaft. With S300 acting as the standard stiff flex, anything that comes in over or below 130 grams is deemed to be a lighter (S200) or heavier (S400) version. Dynamic Gold Tour is weight sorted to +/- 0.5 gram tolerances. You can lower the launch by hardstepping X-100, but you will not get the spin reduction that DG Tour provides. Wow. There has been some craze online about how Kirkland Wedges are being discontinued, so I decided to look into the matter. [/i] I have gamed the x100's in the past and have hit a set of irons with the X7's in them. You've fit hundreds of players into x7's? STEELFIBER FC90. Thanks brother I tried them and absolutely loved them. Miura TC-201 Irons Review - Are They Forgiving? For me, they helped me remove the equipment variable and instead work on my swing flaws. Thank you! [quote name='driverwedge' timestamp='1355711483' post='6078861'] Mu and I go through the swing of the driver in slow motion to show the difference between hitting at the ball and then trying to move it to target versus collecting the ball from the top of the tee and releasing it into the flight plan.