1043/RF: 93BG - encounters heavy flak on way to Misturg.'. I remember Mr Rushen, who coppiced the wood by Randles Lane. Click here for frequently asked questions regarding items permitted inside the museum. Each time we retrieved these items they were handed to the landowner who was aware of the crash site. They had good reason to be fearful. B24 Liberator Audio Finally, the three Eighth Air Force B-24 groups were allowed to return to England. I was living in Orpington and in the winter of 1943 / 4 was taken to see a crashed B17 but not near Curry Wood. Sarah! After the end of the war in Europe, the 93rd returned to the United States to be re-equipped with Boeing B-29 Superfortresses. Please note, we offer the Group and Squadron patches in hand painted format with the exception of the 23rd Fighter Group patch which is also available in multi-layer leather. HQs Ian. Ian. It was N. of the Halstead- Badgers Mount roundabout road and east of Station Road. Object number: UPL 13224 - However, Lt Peacock is certainly listed elsewhere as having been killed on 21 April 1944, so it is probable the museum has that detail incorrectly recorded but the detail about your uncle is correct. On December 5, the 328th, 330th and 409th bomb squadrons left foggy England for the hot desert sands of North Africa, while the 329th remained behind for a special mission. Wasnt Halstead Place owned/built by Barnaby Atkins? 641st: 1943-1945. Gunners aboard the Liberators managed to force them to break off the attack. Richard. By that time, the group had flown nine missions, including attacks on submarine pens at Saint-Nazaire and two missions to Lorient. Charles A. The Traveling Circus attacks were to be conducted simultaneously with the lead groups attack on White One, the Romana Americana plant. Subscribe to receive our weekly newsletter with top stories from master historians. Pages 1 The recollections of some of the farm workers who worked on the farm at the time of the crash were that the plane crashed on a Saturday lunchtime just as they were finishing work, 29/04/1944 was a Saturday. from bases in France beginning in Sep. Unfortunately, my father passed away two years ago so Im unable to check whether this was the crash to which he was referring. Tidal Wave called for the 93rd to be the second group in the low-altitude formation, which would be led by K.K. Please does anyone have information concerning the aircraft crash in wetheringsett approx 1944. Pickel), (Source: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/). My mother used to work there in the 1950s and 60s. More The B-24D Liberator, 41-23754, named, Little Lady http://www.afhra.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=10618, National Museum of the Mighty Eighth Air Force. Will have a look and drop you a line if I find anything. Pages 105-121 Power Plant, and more returning from mission. Whether they produced battlefield images of the dead or daguerreotype portraits of common soldiers, []. Consolidated 44-40757 "Big Time Operator" of the 864th Bomb Squadron, 494th BG 8th AF B-24 Bombers during Raid over France Brand New B-24E Liberator Ford Motor Company Willow Run Plant B-24J 42-72998 "Bugs Bomby" of the 30th Bomb Group, 392nd Bomb Squadron 7th AF 460th Bomb Group 760th BS B-24 Liberators Take Off Spinazzola, Italy M ore pix and vids to come. The aircraft was a B-17G Flying Fortress serial number 42-97236. The 9th Bomb Squadron is a squadron of the United States Air Force. The extra survivor is listed as your uncle, so we can safely conclude that is incorrect and also that your uncle Roy died in the crash so the date you have is of both the crash and his death. 93rd Bombardment Group 329th Bomb Squadron. B-24 was employed in operations in every combat Early next month, the family of our B17s tailgunner will be getting their historic cartridge, in a cheery ceremony at the USAF Academy in Colorado Springs. My ancestor Sarah Atkins is no known relative of the Burnaby Atkinses who have a large memorial tombslab in the churchyard. Combat Stories The 93rd Bombardment Group continued performing its primary mission of bombing enemy targets right up to the end of the war. Digital files of films and sound recordings are available at cost depending on intended use. It moved to England in February-March 1944 and joined the Ninth Air Force. Thank you. Length: 66 ft. 4 in (20.22). Owner of the original Tom Lee Cunningham 25-Nov-2015. as the famous raid from North Africa against the I remember Grosvenor Aslachsen being Rector. Did you obtain these from any particular source? 351st Bombardment Group (H) (Plaque) 351st Bombardment Group (H) (Monument) "Manhattan Maiden" - B-24 of the 374th Bomb Squadron. RAF Glatton is about 6 miles south of the town of Peterborough. Contact Us, If you have any data on servicemen and their units and would like to submit it to our digital library; please Contact Us, Copyright, Army Air Corps Library and Museum, Inc., All Rights Reserved. It had just taken off from Hethel Airfield on a mission to Germany. Eighth Air Force . 93rd. 322nd Bomb Group (M) 330th Bomb Group. The pilot overcorrected in trying to pull out and the plane broke in half near the bomb bay. Free federal warrant list. 3 of the crew were killed in the crash: It looks as though we have come to the end of the road regarding our research although I will continue to check the internet from time to time just in case any further info. Well done for all of this. - Purses I am trying to find out any information about a B-17 Flying Fortress plane crash May 31, 1945. Altogether, some 35,000 parachute and glider troops were involved in the operation. Im sure you notice the changes in that area. and Video files at Marshall Stelzriede's Wartime Story Army Air Corps Library and Museum. Pilots ordered the gunners to engage the flak towers while they hugged the ground to spoil the anti-aircraft gunners aim. First B-24 to complete 50 missions, Boomerang Though you cant see the cemetery in this view you will get an idea of the country your uncle flew over during the war. Having stood up in March 1942, the 93rd Bombardment Group (Heavy) was to become the first unit equipped with the Consolidated B-24 Liberator under the command of the Eighth Air Force following its move to RAF Alconbury, England during August 1942. Some of the most important trucking missions were flown in support of General George Pattons Third Army during its breakout from Avranches and the subsequent dash across France. ? The 93d was the first Liberator-equipped bomber group to reach the Eighth Air Force. Gordijnen maken cursus dactylodewaele. Will also have a think about where else you might be able to find the information you need. 1943-1945. The nose art of a B-24 Liberator (serial number 42 General Ted Timberlake of the 453rd Bomb Group A bomber crew of the 93rd Bomb Group with their B A bomber crew of the 93rd Bomb Group with their Waist Gunner S.J. B-24 Liberator. Sgt James C. Hilty, ball turret gunner, survived Does anyone know anything about a 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group (Heavy)B-24H-25-FO Liberator Gypsy Queen Serial# 42-95024 possibly crashed on the afternoon of 5 November 1944 at Shipmeadow, Suffolk (between Beccles and Bungay. My dad has been talking about the crash that occurred at Curry Wood as he lived in Halstead and remembers it occurring. After the invasion, some B-24 crews, including some from the 93rd, were put to work flying trucking missionsthe aerial resupply of ground forces. The details you have provided dont match anything in The Mighty eighth War Diary book. My friendss dad was the headmaster Norman Sampson. Combined two entries for the 93rd Bomb Group into a single entry. I visited Halstead on Thursday by bus. The three groups made up the 201st Provisional Combat Wing, commanded by Timberlake. Data from Air Force Combat Units of World War II By Maurer, Maurer, Published 1986. http://www.parhamairfieldmuseum.co.uk/390th-bomb-group/interesting-information-and-facts/. The group was first located at Station 102, Alconbury between 6 Sep 1942, and 6 Dec 1942. I dont think this is the correct place because your dates are different, but Im looking for more information about the crash where my great uncle lost his life, and I really dont know where else to look. Hi Roger Notice:Visitors may be filmed, photographed or recorded by the U.S. Air Force for educational and promotional uses, including for posting on public websites and social media. All text within quotes " " is from other B-24 Liberators in formation, A huge strike launched on March 3 was canceled after the bombers were airborne, but one B-17 group failed to get the word and continued on to become the first American bombers to hit the German capital, doing little damage but creating great material for the press. You should be able to purchase a full accident report from this site. Armament: Eleven .50-cal. it now! Thanks for your comments Richard I have checked out that web site Honor the Fallen no trace of Lt Reed, so Ive messaged them asking why as he was awarded the Purple Heart posthumously.Saw your Shazam site, any particular reason you are researching the Costessy crash? As I can recall the accident( I was 5 years old at the time) I thought it would be appropriate to ensure that the sacrifice made by the 10 aircrew should not be forgotten. 640th: 1943-1945. of bombs The B-24D on display flew combat missions from North The 93rd Pursuit Squadron was assigned to England in October 1917 and then sent to France where they finished their combat training at Issoudon near Paris. - Firearms* I do have seven pictures of the crash site which were obtained from the website called To Honor Our Fallen. Hi Roger Missions were flown against the Italian cities of Leghorn, Pisa and Lucca. He was someone I saw when I was staying in Knockholt. 409th Bombardment Squadron: 1942-1946 . Hi John, Im afraid I have nothing more than what is in this thread; http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?73936-P-47-Thunderbolt. Supported Third Army's advance toward Germany, Aug-Nov 1944, operating The Shoulder patches (except the AAF Decal) are offered in multi-layer leather format. There are (2523) servicemen of the 93rd BG in this archive. ea. Although the 44th was older than the 93rd, the newer group had been first in combat. Kind regards. at the 461st's Website (https://461st.org/B-24_Manual/B-24_Manual.html). when I visit the Forum. Colonel Timberlake led 101 B-24s on one of the longest missions of the war. More than 18,000 Liberators were produced. Handwritten caption on reverse: 'B-24J's of 93rd BG/330 BS flying through flak on the way to Misturg. Comes to light. Ted's Traveling Circus - The Traveling Circus. I have been to the Aviation Archaeology web site mentioned and will probably order the crash report. it here too You live in a very nice part of the Norfolk coast.I am a Norfolk Dumpling myself although I now live in exile at Peterborough. 8th Air Force, In some small way its comforting to see the area where he must have flown many times. The trip was marred by the loss of one aircraft and crew at sea. "The Flyin' Moose" was a B-24J assigned to the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group, based at Hardwick, England. Three days later, a 730-plane force of B-17s and B-24s went to Berlin, escorted by 796 fighters. I have walked past it a few years ago so its also close to a public right of way. Our Facebook photo I think it was called Hudds Hill? If you have the tail number of the aircraft that would be helpful in identifying the wreck details. Museum, Willow Run Airport, Michigan - photo by Janet They claimed 3 U-Boats destroyed. . Non-Commercial educational use for the purpose of teaching and instruction, including internal training. Cruising speed: 175 mph (282 km/hr). Sorry I didnt mention this before. The prospect of a low-altitude mission was frightening to the men of the Traveling Circus. I am going to the American Cemetery at Madingley this coming weekend and I hope they may be able to suggest where they might be obtained. 90th Bombardment Group - Jolly Rogers 15th Air Force 91st Bombardment Group - The Ragged Irregulars - 8th Air Force 93rd Bombardment Group - 8th Air Force 95th Bombardment Group - 8th Air Force 97th Bombardment Group,- 15th Air Force 99th Bomb Group - 12th Air Force 100th Bombardment Group Bloody Hundredth - 8th Air Force Hi there I grew up 1/4 of a mile away from the crash site in Hoxne and still shoot on the land regularly if I can be of any help there are plenty of local storys about the crash! 93rd bomb group, 409th squadron. If you would like to use IWM collections materials in a way that is not covered above, require a commercial licence, high-resolution copies, or have manipulation requests, please contact theMedia Sales & Licensing Team. Hardwick, England. "The Flyin' Moose" was a B-24J assigned to the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group, based at Hardwick, England. This is more about local history than anything else, as an ancestor of mine , name of Atkins, was Restoration Australia. No problem, glad it has answered some questions for you. Kind regards Kind Regards England, 7 Mar 1944; Bretigny, France, Sep 1944; Laon/Couvron, France, The group marking was a yellow triangle painted on the tail fin of their B-26s. Maximum speed: 303 mph (488 km/hr). - Backpacks The combined efforts of the Eighth Air Force B-17 and B-24 groups managed to severely cripple the German aircraft industry, cutting actual production to less than half of that planned for March. Squadrons: 328th, 329th, 330th, 409th. Underwood, based on the 8th Air Force Strength Report of 6th August 1944, as published in 'The 8th Air Force Yearbook' by Lt. Col. John H Woolnough (1980). have paperwork and two oakclusters but cant decipher without plane or crewnames the missions he flew dads name William f. Ireland . Dropmasters from the Ninth Air Force Troop Carrier Command replaced waist gunners on missions in which bundles of supplies rigged for parachute drop replaced the bombs normally carried. This information means a great deal to me. The man is holding up part of the tail section. Contact 8th Air Force WWII. Thank you again. I did try to look up the three survivors, and I was very surprised to see that James C. Hilty (listed as a survivor) actually died on that day, too. B-24 Liberator cockpit. Ian. Best wishes, already, no pictures. Anyway, I have digressed away from the point of this site but it is interesting to catch up with people associated with the area. On November 14, the 93rd was honored by a visit from King George VIhis first visit to an American bomber base. When I was a schoolboy in the 40s (I,m in my eighties now) and attended Margaretting C E school in Essex. Do you knowis Park Farm an actual farm, a park, or a village? Extra fuel and a maximum load of bombs, ammunition and thermite sticks put each airplane well over the safe takeoff weight for a B-24. Fosas ardeatinas de roma en 1944 liberty. Teggie Ann reached the first initial point, but four similar-looking valleys lay between it and the second initial point. Richard. Height: 17 ft. 11 in (5.46m). Running short of fuel and in poor visibilty, they headed for what seemed to be an airstrip. While the 93rd was in Africa, the group public relations officer, Corporal Carroll Stewart, began issuing news releases describing the outfits exploits, dubbing the 93rd the Traveling Circus. A newspaperman in civilian life, Stewart published The Liberator, the first overseas troop newspaper of the war. - Kickapoo. Sitemap I am researching Shazam on behalf of the Costessey Memories Group which is attached to the Costessey general library. I just replied to Mike above, and I would gladly pose those same questions to you. A visit to his WWII gallery is Pilot was flying on instruments in clouds when the aircraft hit violent prop wash, throwing the aircraft into a dive. Dad lived in Beldam Haw in the 1930s and 40s, firstly in no. album. Feb-Jun 1945; Seymour Johnson Field, NC, Aug 1945; Westover Field, Mass, Engines: Four Pratt & Whitney R-1830s of 1,200 More than 18,000 Liberators were produced. On August 1, 1943, a total of 177 Liberators took off from Libya for Ploesti39 of them from the Traveling Circus. Mostly concerned with the site of the pilot who died, Lt. Earl H. Bond, Did you find out about crash site?never heard of this onepaul. It looks very different nowadays. Good luck with your research and I will Keep Lt Reed in mind when I am doing work ok on my Shazam project Then, after the Afrika Korps was pushed out of Africa, the B-24s were sent against Italian targetsNaples, Palermo and Messina. Reviews aren't verified, but Google checks for and removes fake content when it's identified. In mid-July, the three Eighth Air Force groups began practicing for a low-level mission against the Ploesti oil refineries, along with the 376th and 98th groups from the Africa-based Ninth Air Force. Donate Thats him! Sitemap A B-24 Liberator (YM-M, serial number 42-50781) of Sign up now to receive news and communications from American Air Museum in Britain charity. Sgt John P. Medica, tail gunner, survived. Im trying to locate the site of a B17 crash in West Norfolk. 1st Lt Leo F. Baumann Pilot Before that they were at oakdene on Rushmore Hill,Knockholt. The parents of the crew had a wooden church built on the crash site. Sgt Morris R. Walker, left waist gunner, survived - Camera bags in April 1943. B24 Liberator Audio and Video files at Marshall Stelzriede's Wartime Story site. Ramsay Potts Section B bombed Astro Romania, the largest oil producer in Europe, a target originally assigned to the 98th. What a coincidence that you remember him. Thanks so much for writing. It was with the 457th Bomb Group and was on a bombing raid to Merseberg near Leipzig in Germany on 21 April 1944, probably to attack the oil refinery there. Open9 a.m. to 5 p.m. seven days a week. Bomber Groups Would any one have any info on a B-17 that came down and crashed landed near curry wood Halstead kent. I was pleased to see that you had photos of all the crew of Alfred 11. Looking at the ground rising beyond and the line of trees in the middle ground, the crash site may well be in the big field to the right of the farm, with this photo looking east. Note also that the entry from the 457 Bomb Group Assn states that the aircraft broke up with bits falling in the fields near Glatton. Other crews saw their leader take three more hits and burst into flames. mistake, please stay and enjoy, then bookmark our url. Because of its great That was followed by a mission to Danzig on October 9 and a diversion for the famous B-17 mission against the ball bearing factories at Schweinfurt on October 14. Any further information you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Has any body got any ideas? In late October, the 330th Squadron was temporarily detached from the group for anti-submarine patrol duties over the Bay of Biscay with the Royal Air Force Coastal Command. Lee Cunningham 25-Nov-2014. Ground personnel of the 93rd Bomb Group work on a A B-24 Liberator (YM-M, serial number 42-50781) of www.2ndair.org.uk/digitalarchive/Dashboard/Index/50, http://www.usaaf.com/8thaf/bomber/93bg.HTM, http://www.93rdbombardmentgroup.com/historyfull.html, National Museum of the Mighty Eighth Air Force. 'Naughty Nan', (Thanks to England on Flickr). sites and has not been amended, although links Supported ground forces of 8,000 lbs (3.571 UK tons, 3.629 tonnes). and comments may have been added. Does anybody know of any record of a B17 stationed at Parham crashing near Framlington Castle? Constituted as 409th Bombardment Group (Light) on 1 Jun 1943 and Used A-20's in preparing for duty overseas. Span: 110 ft. 0 in (33.53m). Unit No: 409th Bombardment Squadron (H), 93rd Bombardment Group (H), 2nd Air Division, 8th Air Force Type: B-24D Honky Tonk Gal Serial No: 42-40265 Code: YM:W Location: 16 km (10 mls) from the Ploesti refineries Base: Site #7, Benghazi, Libya Pilot: 1st Lt. Hubert Heslep Womble O-663978 AAF Age 22. After initial training in the Liberator, the new 93rd moved to Fort Meyers, Fla., for advanced training prior to deployment overseas. Thanks to Michael Used A-20's in preparing for duty overseas. (Thanks to WW2 www.93rd-bg-museum.org, Liberator 409TH BOMBARDMENT GROUP (L) ASSOCIATION, INC. Memorial plaques for the 409th BG (click to see full sized image) TABLE OF CONTENTS Memorial Plaques 409th Bomb Group Comrades that Gave Their All.