Nowadays there arent park keepers any more and some people get up to all sorts in local parks making some of them no-go areas in some cases. It may be that your memory of PG is slightly off but, as I recall, it was the Home & Colonial grocer shop and it was on the left hand side as one went north towards Winchmore Hill; it was on that side shortly before Devonshire Road, the Fox Inn and Fox Lane, possibly about where the Red Cross shop has been in recent times. Is it still haunted? I dont recall the cart. Search over 400,000 listed places Overview Official List Entry Comments and Photos Previous Overview Next Comments and Photos Later, I remember seeing my very first E Type Jaguar outside the shop with a number plate personalised JA number forgotten. (Miss Watts?) I have some letters As I was only young then, I have no idea why that happened. Sylvia 0 I grew in in NRC, What was there before the maisonettes were built. The bombs which fell in Green Lanes/Princes Avenue referred to earlier were caused because one of our anti-aircraft guns which were mounted on the railway line shot off the back of a plane carrying bombs to drop on London and the whole stick fell there. It was nice to hear your memories. The only place Ive ever found an equivalent to Doms, is in the home of ice cream, Italy and thats a long way to go for a cornet!!! Thank you. In the window there was a (seemingly) huge coffee grinding machine. My Godmother was a local schoolteacher in .1930 onwards ish ( Miss Una Cook). Some are specific others generic. I still as the familly piano bungin up my front room, opin the latist sprog will unravvell its potential. Ho for the old days, Mike, (have you still got the Roller!?) A man who was the spitting image of Reginald Varney (On the Buses fame} served behind the counter. Can anyway tell me? Has been used as hi fi cabinet but can be used for anything. An extra curricular fishing trip with the cameraman led to Out of Towns predecessor Gone Fishing in the 1960s and the rest, as they say, is history. The small side road was Devonshire Avenue which continued behind the shops and ended near the railway station at the Triangle. In my form 5 of us went on to become teachers.so much for the 11+ . Miss Hughes was head of the infant school. It is worth a lot but no longer needed. browsing more recent contributions Dinky toys and we once had a red motor bike (brand new) for sale. The, Today is the 7th July. On the other side of the road there was a record shop called Opus I used to spend a lot of time in there in the 70s, you could also buy records from John Menzies a few doors down. I went to The Bezazz in 1961 and 1962 when I was nursing at the North Mid. So many happy memories. fondly recall a Cafe/restaurant upstairs some shop it was opposite one of the cinemas, Special treat of afternoon tea at Pritchards, next door to Evans and Davies. I dont remember it being a bomb site though, Hi Jennie, In 1992 the building housed a Radio Cracker studio. I suppose those of us `of a certain age` have lots of war memories stored away. See the I have a friend who is bit older than me who has lived up near Hedge Lane all her life and she might be able to enlighten us about that mystery when I can contact her. Hi John ! WebPalmers Green Garage Stencil..These were phased out in the 1960s but there were a few left lying around until 1970 though rarely used. I cannot believe Miss Hughes was still there in 1960s. Ma used to send me there up Hedge Lane in the school olidays with a shillin for my lunch (includin tip)I remembers the custard. Can somebody help with this? It was a large detached house surrounded by a beautiful garden which took up the whole of that corner site. My parents continued to live there until 2009 in Kelvin Avenue. I now live in Bedfordshire. However, local schools do still use Arnos Grove, Southgate, Edmonton Green pools etc. Sylvia. Life was never the same again. Special treat of afternoon tea at Pritchards, next door to Evans and Davies. Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. What about the old corn merchant on the corner of Osborne Road and the tiny sweetshop nextdoor! julia, I remember Victor Value, we used the shop sometimes. I have some letters from around that time, describing the move and the area. I used to work weekends 1970-1972 for Kenning Car Hire which Im sure was probably on the site you recall. An album is a way to save a selection of Frith photos, maps and memories that are of interest to you. List of teachers at Hazelwood school 1960s, Miss Hughes, Mrs Jones, Mrs Lee, Mrs Dark. flexible offerings for business. Those who have trodden the boards includeRichardAttenborough (making his stage debut), Irene Handl,Anna Wing, Nicholas Parsons, Roger Moore, Arthur Lowe, Bill Owen, John Inman, Dads Army writer Jimmy Perryand his wife Gilda, Tony Blackburn, Stephen Berkoff, DavyGraham, David Bowie, The Wurzels, Joe, David Bowie appeared in Poirrot in Turquoise for four nights in the late 1960s. Stephen Woodward I recall Miss Bellefontaine Im exactly ten years younger that you and started at Hazelwood in 1963. Gerry Hicks, Hi. Hi. Used to live in Palmers Green (1976-1983). Remember John Menzies where I used to buy records in early 70s. Some of the shops that havent been mentioned from my memory, are; The mens raincoat shop at the top of Windsor Road and the little old man who stood at the door he was creepy!. My taste dress-wise (MENS) was Bricks across the road, specially them T-shirts. Ill be checking your face book page. Yes I remember Miss Hughes, she was the head of Hazelwood Primary around 1946 when I started. Further down , a few doors from the Fox was a confectioner called J.Vercoe. We lived in Sidney Avenue from 1952 until 1961. You might remember the Saturday boy who wrote the window tickets and went on to be a successful photographer in the eighties. Okay Pennie. WebPalmers Green Station (D) is 158 meters away, 3 min walk. Palm Court Restaurant, upstairs on the opposite side of the road near Cinema. Daughter of Uncle Sid Rann (Imperial Father of the Chapel. Mum was Pool Attendant at Barrowell Green but we still had to join those long queues to get in..so long a waitso full had to wait as Mrs. Barry only allowed the extras in as people left. There was a second Grouts shop at 470 Green Lanes just before Hedge Lane. Dave then joined him at Kelvin and we became great mates and we would go to Arsenal matches together. Happy times Hazelwood Primary School, Hazelwood Lane youth club, the Rec on sunny days. [2], Recorded as Palmers grene 1608, 'village green associated with a family called Palmer' (mentioned in local records from the 14th century), from the Middle English grene.[3]. or Best Offer. I lived in Wolves Lane. Stories about the community, its history and people? He was very tall, very Scottish and prescribed bottles of Minadex (green and foul tasting) for almost all childhood ailments! My mum used to take me to the clinic in Broomfield House and I can still taste the orange juice they gave us,fantastic! Yep, remember Doms very well too in the 50s. It is no longer a repertory theatre and the building is no longer used exclusively for theatrical performances, but it is still often referred to as the Intimate Theatre. Anyone remember The North London Decorating Company at the junction of The North Circular and Green Lanes? Regards David. Life isnt all about the big Again has anyone any info on Bruno? We called them Labour Exchanges and people were made to queue outside. Until it closed. I used to have a paper round in the paper shop top of hedge lane and green lanes in 1963 I got fifteen Bob a week Mr pogson was the proprietor does any body remember him. I suspect we would just love them x ! Seiferts (e the owner of the Studebaker Car and Parker Pen (2/6d for cesstificats after the War) practice. Was sad to see it go. Barrowell Green pool was always on the cards in the summer! Hope this helps. I also got a passion for steam trains watching them working the sidings at the station. When the V1 flying bomb attacks on London began in the summer of 1944 I James what year were you at Ambrose Fleming , I was there from when it first opened in 1962 [ I think ] until 1965 . I then started my apprenticeship at Kenning Car Mart at the Triangle behind Woolworths. We recently had an email from Bente Dalsbaek who is trying to trace members of her family from when they lived in Palmers Green in the 1970s. Im doing some research on my family who lived in Tottenhall Road where teenagers and young adults hung out. They could be dropped down to serve the goods. No seats until the Union got a concession. The garage was called Saul and Slatters. Last I heard he was still alive and well in his house in The Meadway, starving comfortably! Sorry to say my own Weddin Photos (brilliant) from Artricia, Winchmore Hill selected by my father-in-law Edward Cable Later on in Advertisin I helped to promote the 10 fare to Australia for adventurous families but had to stay behind to assist David Bailey, Don McCullin, Billy Apple et al.. No rush now but still on the familly tree search (Sixteen String Jack Rann and Sue) (Sue still rowing back to GB from Botany Bay 1779)ave you eard from yore coastgards annythin? 6% was Indian and 5% of 'any other ethnic group'. Some boys from Winchmore worked for him on the window cleaning. Website hand-made by Frith, since 1998. The smell really made me sick. Less than one year into their full opening, automated cycle counts at September 2018 already suggest 10-12k trips by bike per month within Palmers Green. Most of the sites stayed flattened for many years afterwards some right up to the 60s. I was living there from 1948 - 1956 (4 years old till 12 ). Then came the day of the first postwar consignment of new Dinky ToysI was late in the queue, all vehicles sold but I did secure a Gun Emplacement Canon. I was born 1935 in Clapton E. Clapton Mothers Home, but my Mum was born in 1917, er Mum born in St. Pancras Workhouse (next to St. Pancras Station Lunnon) of them days.,Mum went to skool in Islington of very poor (financial m,barrased) parents (both boxmakers on the premises)annyway er memories included bein sent from er classroom in Islington with a friend as escort on the tram to Ulleswater Road, Palmers Green, becos er teacher ad left certain documents behind (or wassit sanwiches (any teacher memories ere?). The Roberts toyshop changed its name in the mid 70s to Zodiac if I remember correctly. Jack had a difficult childhood. The Prisoners were building the estate up to Ash Grove. I ad no spare cash for new comics in them daysdid you ever deliver the EagleIm payin 8.00 a copy for the good ones now.. My grandparents moved to Palmers Green in 1910. us failed musicians worship for evermore.no rush puttin the latest grandaughter Reenie to bed..ope she gets on the bandstand soon shes got the lungs for it and we may need er thirty shillins a week to pay orf the mortgage.Annyway (am I keepin you up?) On the corner of Aldermans Hill and Devonshire Gdns was the United Dairies shop. These chairs had the smallest seats Ive ever seen and I often thought it was a miracle that my Gran ever managed to perch on one. The smell of freshly ground coffee from the Home and Colonial grocers at top of the High Street. These Bus lines stop near Morrisons: 102, 121, 329, 34, W6. I do remember though looking at one of those planes that were bombs without pilots (forgot what they were called could it be doodle bug) with my dad and its engine stopped right over head. There have long been rumours that the Intimates days were numbered. From brief one-liners explaining a little bit more about the image depicted, to great, in-depth Poultney and his Perlice in the Guardroom. Rebecca Andrade, president of Newark Preschool Council; a founder and executive director of Head Start Program, 1968. Hi Mitchell thank you for fillinin some potoles,, .Yes I remember the cafe well, 1964, it was on the corner of N.C Rd & Green Lanes. Residing in Florida but will be returning to the UK some time early next year and looking forward to checking out the old haunts. AU $9.95 postage. Wow Thanks Richard awesome now I win the bet with my brothers!! I also attended Hazelwood school and remember Mrs bellefontaine I am now 66 years old. Palmers Green High Street Circa 1955 1960 Special treat of afternoon tea at Pritchards, next door to Evans and Davies. Probably some of my first photographs were taken there. Fortunately my mother never chastised me about it. I lived in Palmers Green from 1965 to 1993 and I have many memories of the shops back in the 60s and 70s, I even had a saturday job in Gambles the corn merchant, in 1977. Absolutely free. Sylvia. My grandmother moved to Halifax in 1919 and remarried. Best teacher was the top class with Mr Smith. Boots the Chemist had a small book lending library upstairs and usually had a good selection of Enid Blyton Mysteries. In those days they called a spade a spade! I went to Brownies and Guides at that church too! Other teachers were Miss Sweeny who would let you ring the bell if it was your birthday, Miss Calcott (horrible) and Mrs Dark. I remember the tremendous explosion and my father tying the washing up bowl over his head with a towel and running down Sidney Avenue to help. In 1969, the New Jersey lottery got its start and New Jersey native Buzz Aldrin (from Glen Ridge) landed on the moon with Neil Armstrong. Singing Tom used to give me all the flower heads to play with. I bet virtually nobody has one of these fictitious Swiss bank accounts etiher. I wonder if anyone remembers Dr Baxter who had a surgery in Hazelwood Lane at the junction with New River Crescent where the maisonettes are now? I lived in Conway Road all of my early life from 1944 to 1968 when I emigrated to Canada. I went back to PG last year for a look around and was amazed at all the cars parked in my old road, Lynbridge Grdns as when I lived there there were none. I have lots of childhood memories about Palmers Green Railway Station. He must have spent a lot of time fixing kids injuries as my memory of him was from when I fell off my scooter whizzing round the garden and I damaged a tendon in my leg. Hi Normathese Palmers Green Memories are great, eh? the smell as you walked anywhere near it .lovely. Recall Mrs Potts and Mrs Langford and Miss Buchanon (whom I disliked nasty old bat). The reference to Palmers Green was prompted by the fact that Trouble had split up with his girlfriend and was at a party thrown by his friend Charles "Charlie Farley" Hallinan near The Fox, Palmers Green. The Tesco replaced a cinema that used to be there, In the early 60s I saw Robin Hood,there, the Walt Disney cartoon production. I practically lived in the Bezzaz Coffee Bar!!!! Any idea of what it was called? Bit of paint on the ground for cyclists, which drivers will ignore, That graphic shows an upwards trend FYI.. As often a pedestrian (not a car owner and over 65)I feel prompted to say that I really appreciate the introduction of Cycle lanes. G lenda Jackson met Stevie Smith on a poetry-reading platform in the 1960s, when the poet from Palmers Green came into a late-blossoming fame. Areas like Palmers Green have changed a great dealover the years;the memories of others help us see where we live with new eyes. I know my grandmother at one point started to work in a hospital instead of housekeeping, but I am not sure if it is a local hospital. He made me move it in all directions to see what damage Id done and he really hurt me but he was so stern that I was too scared to complain and laid there with my eyes filled with tears but kept a stiff upper lip and wouldnt cry as that would have been seen as weak! I wonder if anyone out there can help with a memory? She ated the chairs and the oover and most else e lovingly carried ome. Maybe it was rebuilt very quickly or my memorys going! Palmer, then 29, won the 1960 U.S. Open with the most mesmerizing birdiefest in golf history, six in the first seven holes to start his fourth round. My family name was Church but we have moved away now. She would sit regally on the little wooden chairs by the counter. The front half was a sweet shop and there was hair all over the floor, The old buzzard who cut the hair used to ask for a tip. Try putting dance hall into search, or I will find the link for you later! She retired when I was there and replaced my Mrs Gibbs trendy and Beatles fan. 2023 Palmers Green Jewel in the North, Palmers Green history, people and community, The twentieth century and urban life in literature, Palmers Green Baptist Church, Green Lanes, Palmers Green United Reformed Church, Fox Lane/Burford Gardens, St Georges Presbyterian Church, Fox Lane / St Georges Road (demolished), Palmers Green and Southgate Synagogue, Brownlow Road, Palmers Green Mosque and Education Centre, Oakthorpe Road, Local dignatories, bigwigs and characters, Improbably famous in Palmers Green #5: Jack Hargreaves, Intimate demolition plans: Just a minute says Nicholas Parsons. Im sure he was in my class at Winchmore? Atthe Intimate Theatre. It had locations in Sumiton and Jasper. Does anyone know of an old folks home in Lakeside Road around that time, possibly number 59? Nice to hear from you. Of course, the Intimate already has a legacy, and was successfully nominated for Enfield Councils Local Heritage List two years ago. Helen. 1940, I have enjoyed reading all of your comments, because my Mother was so proud to have lived there, and reminisced so often. Dordrecht, Netherlands. Can someone confirm the existence of a Tesco store in Palmers Green at this time? Mr. Music Baggarley, S.County did not think much of my voice, a judgement echoed by Regimental Sgt.Major, Rifle Brigade, on the Square, Winchester. It is quite heavy as solid hardwood. N21. They were green wooden gates. Its population was very small, and there were no more than a few isolated houses in the mid-17th century. Brown, GeorgeMelly, Tommy Trinder, Hinge and Bracket, and, in panto,Bill Pertwee, Ruth Madoc, and John Noakes. By the way I went to Winchmore Secondary Modern in the days when Mr. Shepherd was headmaster I liked him a lot the naughty kids called him the beak but he was a nice man. He used to fish the river during his leisure time, the only person in those days who could legally do so as the river was out of bounds to all. I think that surgery was based in the houses that Martin mentioned (10/8/14) for a short while and then to a tiny building, like a garage, at the top of Windsor Rd with a bigger branch in Winchmore Hill, nr Green Dragon Lane. Possibly during WW2 it was requisitioned for war work. I used to go to the Devonshire Cafe for dinner, not everyday but quite a few times, we would take the dinner back to the station, then return the empty plates all washed. I started in the infants second year in 1947. I owe so much to your father who be came friends with my father and would meet for a drink in the COCK TAVERN. But I was answering Jenny Hs comment about the site at the top of Hedge Lane which was a car dealership etc & is now a very good Turkish Deli, which she thought had been a bomb site. I assume there was no ammunition in the house, though! I do remember the restaurant above the sweet shop too. Even after such investment they remain, in design, a theatre and private residence. In the summer we sold ex Wimbledon tennis balls. Im not sure where Jays originated in Croydon or elsewhere but in any case it appears to have ended up as a national chain, with branches in places such as Bristol, Luton, Northampton, Croydon and Sheffield, as well as areas of London including Palmers Green, Stoke Newington, and Walthamstow.. I also used to enjoy swimming lessons and free practice twice per week at the schools Arnos Grove Swimming pool is that still a local schools facility? She and my Father were married at Palmers Green in 1935. We lived just at the top of Sidney Avenue in Palmerston Road and I remember crouching under the kitchen table as a very small girl with my mother and my brother and I can still recall the sound of the planes going overhead and the gun fire. Yes.thats where I learnt to swim. Further up from Ashwells towards Devonshire Rd.was a beautiful shop selling china and glass.This was close to the shop with the heavy coffee smella quite small shop which was probably next door to the 2nd. By 1908, when they had their first son Ronald, later an eminent doctor, they were living in Eaton Park Road but by 1911 they had set up home at 48 Fox Lane. We lived in Hamilton Crescent and the kids played in the Rec but it was short for Recreation Ground.lol. One day I remember hearing some youths had put a razor blade on the shoot and I was terrified. One of us is going mad!! Beg to differ, Miss Hughes was headmistress of the Infants, and Miss Bellfontaine was headmistress of the juniors. Hi I lived in Princes Avenue with my grandparents in 1969 and reading the comments the memories came flooding back. Did you work in the Muswell Hill shop? More details Search for your favourite UK places and read memories of the local area Since 1970 Ive lived in the Netherlands and from 1980 am the fortunate owner of a mint condition, unrestored 1963 Jaguar Mk 2, 3.4 litre. Hi Sylvia, in the P.Green archives somewhere there is a report that on the night of March 15th 1941 the Princes Dance Hall (corner of Princes Ave) was packed with young couples. Hello Stephen..thanks for your promptin memorriesjust south of your late employer street-wise in them days on the corner of edge Lane was alf a shop where I ad to take mas dry cleanins, come snow or shineannyway Dad ad to ave is dickies starched weekly ,cos he was appearin (come snow or shine) on Friday nights at the Manor ouse Turnpike Lane or Tottnam Muniplayin sax(s) clarinet, piano, accordian, dubble base etc for the fashionable dancers in them days. But if it is the right Colin Fisher, I do not yet know. After the war he ran various bands Bert Harts band any combination. Although we joke about the shop you could actually buy just about anything you required in the haberdashery line, ric-rac braid, elastic, cotton, american cloth by the yard etc. At the time Kennings had a garage in Edmonton which I remember was a Jaguar dealer so I imagine our old car hire site was the Jaguar dealer you recall and would most likely have also been a Kennings branch. My brothers and I were trying to remember where the furniture store Jays was located in Palmers Green, can someone help. 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We were entranced by the trendy clothes and selection of jazzy tights. 65cm (W)x95cm (H)x55cm (D) 30 3 days ago 2 Shoe shelf inside the Now living in East Anglia. Dr Stewart was our doctor too. People on the breadline who receive more money won't squirrel it away in 60 years ago, on 20th April 1963, Edmonton Council officially inaugurated an impressive new public utility - the building now referred to as Ridge Avenue Library. Built in the late 1930s, it stands as a handsome example of civic architecture from the period. We bought our first TV off him, black and white of course. Palmers Green to Tottenham by bus The bus journey time between Palmers Green and Tottenham is around 8 min and covers a distance of around 2 miles. You even remember the prices! Responding to the notes on Barrowell Green Swimming pool, I was born in Southgate and lived at 6 Tintern Gardens from 1936 56, and attended Southgate County Grammar School. I remember the entrance to Appleyards next to the post office. She mopped up my tears when I failed the 11+ (I did however become a teacher myself and always remembered her kindness) Then onto Winchmore County School -what a great school. Once in, the shop was very narrow and long with coats of all sorts hanging along the walls. I dont remember the Rubber Mac ShopMa made me buy my Mac (Grey Gabberdine, de reguer worn over the right arm when hescortin the ladies (no rain at the wrong time in them pre global warmin days) but de reguer in Broomfield or Grovelands Park to spread for the ladies (Sir Walter Raaly like etc)) from Fifty Shillin Tailors? I manage to find scraped ice cream every now and then but nothing like the taste I remember. Yes, Dave, I knew Vic Madden by sight only, in the early 60s. See https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/save-the-intimate-theatre-palmers-green. Does anyone have a photo of prewar broomhill park with its original railings? Annyone remember that great Destroyer model opposite the counter in J&As, is it still cutttin the seas in defence of our Realm? As I hadnt had any response to my original comment I was beginning to think I had imagined him. The first large-scale developments were on the Old Park estate between Fox Lane and Aldermans Hill, and the Hazelwood Park Estate between Hazelwood Lane and Hedge Lane. an dreemin on ..do you remember Lou Ansell and is Dance Band founded I believe at Hazlewood Lane Skool and practicin evenins before puttin on dances for the skool and other worthy causes. I am Geoffreys sister Carole. ps. Now retired living in Strawberry Hill. There have been theatre productions, celebrity drinkers, a ghost, a comedy club, and community cinema. Arnos and remember Mr collier miss wastel and headmaster Mr Rossi also school nurse nitty Nora! He took the train each morning from Palmers Green station. Hi Gerry, Im nearly retired and living in Australia, you may remember my father Aubrey Todd who ran Kelvin Photos. I had a mini and a few cortinas in the 70s all with big bore exhausts and used to make a deliberate noise going up Green lanes. Was Mrs Dark the wife of Mr. Palmers Green is a suburban area and electoral ward in North London, England, within the London Borough of Enfield. Just found this by chance and been reading some of the comments as I grew up near this area. Would love to hear your memories of the 50s & 60s. Does anyone remember Palmers Green High School in the early to mid 60s. I studied at Southgate County 1946-1950. Doms! I smiled when I read about the visits to Dom's Cafe, just a five minute walk from the school. You done a bit of boxing? Very interesting. In 1902, however, large tracts of land were sold for building and the area began to develop rapidly. two of the teachers l remember and Mr bennet was our headmaster,.true air raid shelter was at the top of the play ground. WebPalmers Green, London Kiaat hardwood cabinet. hang across the window pegged on string!!! Ha ha yes and he had those bottle top glasses Dr Meldrum !!! Gerry, my email is [email protected] would like to know more as cant use [email protected] my mail is returned. Thanks And how kind he was to. The one on the right going North was Cullens The coffee machine was dark red and black.Cullens also had another outlet nr the Cherry tree at the end of the Mall. His house and grounds backed onto the new river on the opposite bank to ours which was in Lynbridge gardens. I was born at 7 Oakthorpe Rd, PG in 1944 and moved to East Anglia in 1971.